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KIRBY 7- 05-18-2008
clarifications
This is a repeat of a set of pm's I've had with kaxantrom. (Kax feel free to contribute to the thread.) Actually it's only the most recent post. I didn't bother to archive the rest, but it was a pretty interesting convo. I'm reposting it here, because Kax posted some pretty interesting questions, & I feel that my answers can help clarify what I believe are common accusations that are often levied toward Killer 7. Such as that whole anti American angle that a lot of gamers see. Which imo only shows the general ignorance of most people when it comes to politics. We automatically assume that somebody is "anti" simply because they disagree with an idea. I was like I want to go to japan, I thought it was the best country in the world, because you see people saying "america america" or the united states , is the best country, so I said to myself nah it is japan now I realized that it is not... There's no such thing as a "best country in the world". Every country is a fucking shit hole full of racists, & bastards. The only country that should matter is the country that you yourself consider home. What you don't seem to realize is that Japan has no real power. (They lost any real power they once had during the 50's) Do you want to know why? Japan is basically owned by American interests. Why do you think Toru Fukushima tried his hardest to distance himself from America, and was ultimately killed for it. I'm not trying to dissuade you from Japan. I consider Japan as a 2nd home myself, but I have a critical eye. I recognize the countries fallacies & ineptitude. Every single country in the world has them. None are above reproach. Any who believe otherwise are looking at the world through dark tinted glasses clouded by smog. when I played killer 7, sometimes I did not know much, but at first I thought that Suda was antiamerican lol because when I forgot his name but he said something like "do you think that japan won't do anything after it was bombed" the old man, in the chapter after sunset How is that anti American? Japan was getting bombed by neighboring Asian territories, lol. Suda 51 even says so in the brady games strategy guide. The two old jap guys are angry at America,because America back stabbed them. America refused to comply with Article 9. Which states that America is to provide military backup if Japan were to ever be attacked by a foreign nation. but when I read travis' messages I was like "I think Suda is antijapanese" lol How is that anti Japanese? He's speaking the truth. I guess to state the truth is to proclaim that you are "anti". Tell me. Can you name me one country who would honestly come to Japan's aid if Japan were to be snubbed out by the United States? Think long & hard now, because I can't think of a single country that would. Nobody gives a genuine fuck about a country that's not populated by White occidentals. People can say otherwise, but I believe actions speak louder than words. Every time a Western nation has came to the aid of an Eastern one. It was almost always to serve the West's own interests under the guise of "democracy". They're doing the same to the Middle East now. (Although Middle Easterners seem to be lowly regarded when compared to the way Asia is treated. At least Asian nations get treated like adopted kids. Middle Eastern people just get stepped & trampled over.) now I know that Suda's opinions are not shown in the game, Suda is very deep I thought that was obvious. That's the reason why I prefer Suda over Kojima. Suda doesn't contaminate his games with his own political preferences. He merely shows you, & lets you think about it. Where as Kojima's games are polluted with left wingish rhetoric, & constantly preaches to you why your ideal is wrong. (While Kojima's view is right or the correct point of view.) To be able to come up with your own decisions, solutions, & ideals is what free will is about. Both Kojima & Suda know this, but only Suda seems to practice what he preaches. but for these reason we always hear noobs saying that suda is antiamerican or other stupid things That's because those gamers are ignorant & egotistic. Most gamers are. It's nothing new. That's why half of the games out right now seem to be designed to reflect the general ignorance of the gaming audience. (Seriously how many pointlessly violent action games do we really need?) Basically what Suda is making fun of is democracy. Not Japan or the United States. He's saying that there's no such thing as a government who practices true democracy. Much similar to how there's never been a government that was truly communist. When he says nobody is going to help Japan. Suda is not. I repeat not slandering Japan. He's speaking the truth. In general people only care about White countries. In Killer 7 Japan incorrectly uses the word democracy to their benefit as a means to spread "democratic" interest under their own banner. Basically Japan is emulating the same exact shit that the United States is doing today. Most of the shit that Suda says about the United States is true as well. Votes actually are manipulated by how the votes are counted. Not by how many votes there actually are. Meaning that a vote for one candidate could be counted as a vote for a rival candidate. Whereas the original vote remains unaccounted for. The two examples stated about Japan & the U.S. are reasons why Killer 7 is saying that democracy is a sham.

KIRBY 7- 05-22-2008

This is a repost of a pm. now I see there is not a best country, you are very right and you also very right that no one has practiced real democracy or real communist,, this is the reason both suck, neither system works now some people really know that our electoral system is fucked, and they think it will change because nothing reminds forever they say, but that seems kinda impossible you never thought of a world without laws, without religions, what do you think a world without control over humans will be, without those who make the important decisions? what the world will be? because people who control say that we need someone to take our decisions or someone to control us, but maybe we need different people to control us because without control what will be of us? or maybe not, what you think? Both systems have the potential to work in theory. It just so happens that us humans as individuals are greedy. We tend to be corrupted by power. I think the world needs control, but to an extent. I'm not like most people. I don't desire anarchy. Anarchy is basically freedom gone out of control. Due to an absence of law & order. I just desire the basic freedoms that this country was funded under. The ability to work your way up to the top using your own means. These days you can not achieve a higher level without first selling out your vision to a corporate conglomerate for financial backing. Check up the libertarian mind set. Every ideal that they follow is similar to my own. BTW you should've posted this question in this thread. forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=1077" target="_blank">http://killer7.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=1077 It has the potential for some deep ass discussion.

kaxantrom- 05-25-2008

Most of the shit that Suda says about the United States is true as well. Votes actually are manipulated by how the votes are counted. Not by how many votes there actually are. Meaning that a vote for one candidate could be counted as a vote for a rival candidate. Whereas the original vote remains unaccounted for. can you be more specific, like an example some people say that the machines that count the votes, is this what you mean?

kaxantrom- 05-27-2008

talking about the system the system is fucked from the beginning, cus the one who wrote the constituion were slaves owners who wanted to be freed, and how can you deal with some, I got right to my opinion and you got right to your opinion, and if your opinion is I love KKK, and my opinion is that is nah right, how can you deal with it, the system is fucked. Maybe honesty, as George Carlin said, "If honesty was practiced the whole system will colapse people will not know what to do, honesty will fuck the system up" I thought the japanese was the super race nah kidding, just look at their constitution I think it is the most pacifist japanese american are most well educated and they live longer than any other group in USA, and Hawaii is the only state in the whole USA that have free health programs like in other western countries health is free, but in the USA nah, just hawaii cus their politicians are japanese decendants

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