Devil's Due Killer 7 comic

Lol, tis ok. But you know, it sounded like you were having a go at me, so I wandered around the school going 'omfgs, I pissed her off >__>;' Yeah, it seemed like that to me too. They didn't seem like friends at all, it was more like 'I want to rip your brain out and stuff it down a drain' kind of... um... hate. You know who I can't wait for? Susie.

o.o I hearts you! ...erm, yeah, I want Susie too. XD And for some strange reason...Curtis. He's going to look so freakin' scary in this drawing style. So scary. And along the lines of Susie, where the hell is Travis? ...And did Iwazaru take a vow of silence? I know they only have about 25 pages to work with every issue, but c'mon.

Ooh! Kess Bloodysunday! And 99.9% of me says no, they won't put the drug store clerk in, but I want them to because she's hot. Maybe they decided that Travis would be too 'bla bla bla bla politics bla bla bla' and the readers would burn their copies of the comic book because they didn't buy it for the political science. Then again, maybe they did.

I want to see Susie as well she has the best damn dialogue ever. Maybe they decided that Travis would be too 'bla bla bla bla politics bla bla bla' and the readers would burn their copies of the comic book because they didn't buy it for the political science. Then again, maybe they did. The thing is the politics presented in the Killer 7 game is what makes Killer 7 more than just a mindless action game. There's a reason why Killer 7 is considered intelligent... Unlike most videogames including Metal Gear Solid, Killer 7 actually has a solid understanding of how politics works. The thing that friggin pisses me off about the comic is that it's written with typical angst. Just look at Garcian almost every single thing he says is either a smartass remark or some generic one liner trying to act like a badass. In the game Garcian was usually calm & composed even when he swears he still acts calm. Look at mask in the game he was so damn funny because he was some giant with the voice of a 12 yr. old boy. Like Garcian,De Mask is also typecast as some stereotypical angst mofo. The complex poltical agendas from the game are none existant in the comic. IThe comic book is basically just the U.S. sending out an agent to topple the crazy facist japanese. In the K7 game both Japan & the U.S.A are made out to be corrupt,& that both the governments of Japan & the U.S. have been lying to the public since the very begining. Straight up if K7 didn't have such a complex politcal plot I would have never bothered constructing a fansite in the first place. It would've just been another over hyped game to me. Check out this link that has an individual comparing K7 to MGS. http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showthread.php?s=393a845efc579da88766a0c8946abc45&threadid=8415&perpage=15&pagenumber=6 Chain Chomp's opinions about MGS & K7 are spot on IMO. I'll quote what he said,since I pretty much agree with everything he wrote. Chain Chomp Image Constraint Token Registered: Jun 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Canada. Posts: 1412 It's not that I'm against politics in video games. Killer7 had one of the best video game storylines that involved global politics ever. But Killer7's delivery of politics works because a) unlike Metal Gear, it doesn't insult the player, and b) it shows more than one side of the story. Metal Gear on the other hand, shoved all of Kojima's beliefs down the throat of players: his fear of a nuclear holocaust, the consequences of a free market, environmental issues, government conspiracies, etc, and it was so obvious it was downright condescending. Killer7 did the one thing that most "political" video games don't do: it makes the player think, and think about it a lot. Killer7 also didn't take sides, but rather, illustrated what happens at the micro level as the "sides" attempt to thwart one another. If there's one name that's synonymous with overrated in the video gaming industy, it's Hideo Kojima -- the same pompous hippy that thought that the black "HIDEO" screen equated good gameplay. Metal Gear without the movies is just another generic infiltration via stealth video game. The movies, the rare time it takes place outside of a Codec conversation are well directed, but it doesn't stop the storylines from being non-sensical, pretentious, and a bad-attempt at being epic. "I left my family because my step-mother seduced me. When my father found out, he committed suicide." Or something similar, but just as stupid. Is this good writing to you? The story about some computer geek that drove his father to his death because he copulated with his step-mother? Rather, it's Kojima's attempt at shock value by including incest. Or is he just merely advocating against the evils of screwing your father's new wife? So tell me, n64nut, do you still NOT fault Kojima? Chain Chomp Image Constraint Token Registered: Jun 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Canada. Posts: 1412 quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by n64nut You don't like it, that is fine but you are definately in the minority on the opinion that he is "overblown and pretentious -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's because most gamers are media and politically illiterate. Gamers aren't known for their erudition. As a result, most gamers can't criticize Kojima's work, because they lack the ability to do so. The only good part about MGS2 was the boat level. If I ever play that game again, it's only to play the boat level. Chain Chomp Image Constraint Token Registered: Jun 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Canada. Posts: 1412 Most people in general are media and politically illiterate. Gamers just fall into the category of most people. Most people come home from work and watch garbage like American Idol, or some other stupid reality television show. Gamers come home and sit in front of their television playing video games. The majority of people don't have the formal education, or self-education to make them credible when it comes to having an opinion on politics. If I'm wrong, then our society would be a much better place. If only I could get Chain Chomp to do some work for this website. Although he only gave K7 a score of 6 out of 10 he happens to understand the story of K7 more than most folks do. Heh heh he describes Hideo Kojima perfectly he does come off as a typical Left wing nut that doesn't fully grasp the whole picture of the world. Spouting his left wing rhetoric all over his games. There's nothing wrong with being a liberal,so long as that's your genuine political stance. The problem is most individuals who fall under the liberal category (Which is the majority of the population.) are doing nothing more than following the current trend of bashing North America,& base most of their arguments on convenient half truths,conspiracy theories,& IMO are just way too idealistic. Ideals are nescesary,but with out the means to pursue the ends what's the use? (I still hold much respect for Hideo kojima,but it's mainly for his Snatcher & Policenauts games. I wish Hideo would go back to his old writing style from the late 80's,ear;y 90's & just steal ideas from movies such as Blade Runner,Terminator,Lethal Weapon,etc.,because his politcal commentary & post modernism is a joke.)

No doubt that Kojima is forcing his views into the game, but to be fair, we still played it. We still talk about it, we still hype up the next one, and we still quote the game, even if some consider it poorly written. I'd say its really hard to enjoy something if all you are going to do is bash it, and force others to agree with your views. In the end Kojima still has your money. Honestly, I'm not trying to defend him, or prove Chain Chomp wrong, I'm just keeping reality alive. The Killer 7 comic is crap compared to the actual plot of the game. I enjoy it for the art, and some of the dialouge changes. Mask's line about setting the guy on fire is bad-ass. And I do agree that Garcian's character chance is lame.

No doubt that Kojima is forcing his views into the game, but to be fair, we still played it. We still talk about it, we still hype up the next one, and we still quote the game, even if some consider it poorly written. I'd say its really hard to enjoy something if all you are going to do is bash it, and force others to agree with your views. In the end Kojima still has your money. Honestly, I'm not trying to defend him, or prove Chain Chomp wrong, I'm just keeping reality alive. The Killer 7 comic is crap compared to the actual plot of the game. I enjoy it for the art, and some of the dialouge changes. Mask's line about setting the guy on fire is bad-ass. And I do agree that Garcian's character chance is lame. True enough,but what Chomp said is also reality. What you just wrote is more of a -*test*-('")ament to how popular MGS is,and not the actual content of the story. There's a reason why video game stories are never taken seriously,and it's mainly because the writing just isn't that great when compared with real media. (To be fair. Most movies have horrible writing as well. That's just the double standard that games have to face due to being younger.) I forgot to mention that even though I feel that Hideo Kojima's current writing is lame I'm still going to pick up MGS 4 anyway. Like I did with the rest of the series. I recieved MGS 2 as a christmas present for when I first bought my Playstations 2s. (I own an englsih & a japanese ps2.) The only Mgs that truly wowed me with the story was MGS 2. So long as you ignore all the uneeded extra information like the Octacon incest parts. Hell I'd rather play MGS over K7 anyday. The main reason why even Kojima's critics buy his games,is because we often hear about how magnificent the story is. Hell that's the reason why I bought Killer 7 in the first place,because I assumed that the story was going to be just as overrated as MGS. (there's no rental places where I'm at.) Only to be pleasently surprised that K7 actually has some commentary worth noting. I'm not trying to take anything away from kojima. I've been one of his supporters since day one. With his classics Snatcher & Policenauts. Pratically everybody who's played Policenauts claims that game is his best written work ever. (Even though it's still derived from a hybrid of movies that influenced him.) It's said that even Policenauts happens to be Hideo Kojima's favorite game that he's made. (You can check the info out at JunkerHQ http://junkerhq.net/) Where i'm coming from, I happen to be disapointed that Kojima's writing style has been dilluted over the years. Most of his current fans of today are only familiar with his MGS saga. IMO a true game that has an epic complex story & game play is the pc game Deus Ex. That game has praticaly everything that MGS wishes it was. The problem I see with Hideo Kojima is that everybody calls him a genius when most of the info that he relays in his games are basic info that can be learned just by checking a random history book at a library. Like that Chomp guy said the only reason why Kojima's stories impress so many people is because us gamers & people in general are politically illiterate. I might sound like an ass for this,but what he said is fact. Sure we shouldn't take a game too seriously,but when a game's story happens to be one of it's claims to fame you have more than enough reason to fault a story if it has halfassed writing. My feelings about the story of MGS as a whole,is that MGS has an interesting concept,but the writing in general is just terrible. Especially the dialogue. (i'm pretty sure I've quoted the cheesy dialogu from MGS enough times already.) Now that's where Killer 7 the game gets mad props from me. Killer 7 has some of the best dialogue I've ever seen in a game. (I'm also sure that I quoted the lines from this game already.) It's as if the script were written by Takashi Miike or Quentin Tarrantino himself. The reason why Hideo Kojima is able to get away with writing such a hackneyed script is because he doesn't have any competition. Suda51 may come close,because he actually writes good dialogue. It's just too bad that Suda51 has no idea how important conventional gameplay is to a game so that aspect alone makes him a league below Hideo Kojima. (I've only played through Killer 7 once,and i don't even know how many times I played the MGS games. I played each one except MGS 3 at least 5 times or more.) Even though I think the MGS story sucks. (Which is even more noticeable when you watch MGS 3 subsistence as a movie.) The game is still fairly good,because of it's gameplay. What I'm trying to get at is just because a story may be passable for a game. That doesn't exactly imply that it's a good story in general. The MGS saga is a shining example. The story is aight,but the MGS game succeeds mainly for it's mix of gameplay,stellar graphics,fan service,etc. (Even Reon Kadena makes a cameo in one of the posters for MGS.) In other words a game doesn't need a good story in order to be enjoyable. Seriously though I wonder how many books or documents that most MGS fans have read if they actually think that the story for MGS is that special. I used to think Xenogears had one of the best stories ever until I realized all they did was copy some old texts & conspiracy theories word for word using different names instead. Likewise I used to think the MGS had one of the most epic stories ever,until I actually paid attention to the context of what they were trying to convey. Take MGS 3 for example the Big boss has a 20 min. long monoluge about how soldiers are suppose to be loyal & even have the will to die for their country. Both during codec & as a cut scene. Did I really need to see all that melo dramatic tripe when the whole dialogue could've been summed up in 8 mins. or less. (If you notice almost all the political dialogue in K7 last for only 2 to 10 min.,but they're still able to get the idea that they're trying to spread across.)

Well since I work at a game store (already converted someone to Killer 7) I run into all kinds of illiterate gamers. I can understand why the plot would have such an effect on them. But I'll agree that they drag out alot of shit in the MGS plot. I felt they kept it at decent length in the original Metal Gear Solid, but MGS2 was ridiculous. Honestly the Dead Cell group was a huge waste. They could have just worked them as henchmen, kept their involvment simple, and maybe hide deeper secrects in one of the guys. Kinda like the Cobra Unit. Big Boss kills em off so quickly there is no time to hear a huge backstory. And, only one Cobra's backstory even mattered. The Sorrow, aside from having one of the coolest experiences in a video game was important as a character foil to the Boss. Everyone else just showed up, said I'm gonna waste yo ass, and then Big Boss ended up the victor. In MGS2 I could have done without all the shit Stillman and Fatman had behind them. I dont have to know why he wants to blow up the shell, I just wanna beat him so I can move on. Oh, and having Olga in the game was just ugly. Totally useless. And I hated her being the new cyborg ninja. I'm not too pleased that they are going ot wrap that up in MGS4. But man did she have a great death by Solidus. Anyway, I can easily see there being a huge hour long movie in MGS4 explaining why Snake hates grass or something.

This comic should be renamed "The super happy fun adventures of Garcian and Mask" because I'm starting to lose faith in it since there hasn't been any other appearance for 3 issues :/

HAHA!! Yeah tha'ts aout right!! You don't see anyone else!!! :'( No Con or Kevin!!! I'm kinda a fan of Dan but regardless they haven't even had Coyote in it at all either!!!! Oh well...I think they'll get to all of the killers as the story progresses. Hopefully they FINISH the whole game through to the end!!! Instead of getting partially there and quitting since K7 isn't the most popular game. However I think that the fans of the game (pretty much all the fans are big fans anyway) will seek out anything they can that is based on this game so hopefully we'll see it all finished!

The full issue of the 1/2 comic (you know, the one with Dan on the cover about to cap you in the face? Yeah) has Dan, Coyote, Kaede (ZOMG), and Mask in it. I've scanned it...so when I get home from work today I will hopefully remember to upload it to...somewhere. Photobucket hates me. Next issue (that should have fucking come out by now) SHOULD have Coyote in it. Both covers (there's a Cover B, just like last issue) have him on it...and it's the Ulmeyda stage. I don't know about everybody else, but I'm sick of Mask. I never liked him much to begin with and now I just want to see him thrown into an active volcano. >.> I wants me some Dan and Kaede. ._. ...and Con too. I guess. Kevin...um...Kevin doesn't have to exist. I'm sort of afraid to see him drawn in the comic style.

Yeah he's a really boring character IMO. Plus he looks like someone that would eat your babies if he had the chance. "Childrens are pure" you get the point.

Mask will set you on fire. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Am I the only one who likes Mask? >_<

I like Mask. I used him a fair amount in the game.

Mask for teh win!!!! I aint a big fan of comics, but was interested when these were first mentioned. However, I lost all interest when I saw this cover:

I mean, what the fuck! Someone tell me the art direction got better 'cause that's offensive to my eyes.

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