FatalFrame NExt for Wii
As you know i love horror games, have finished all parts. 3 being best. Infact only true horror game i ever played, rest being more of psycho horror. For all you fans, here is best news which you might not like _____ Grasshopper will start on Fatal Frame when work on No More Heroes, recently announced for a US release via Ubisoft, has finished. Given that No More Heroes was developed on Wii, Grasshopper seems content on Nintendo's console. :D _____ edit 7/10/08: Stickied by Invisible Hand. Post is stickied, because GHM are developing this game. FF is Tecmo's ip so the thread is staying here for now.

Very interesting. I wonder why Tecmo isn't the developer of this new one, though.

FUCK YES

DOUBLE FUCK YES! Fatal Frame is the scary shit! I still need to play 3 though, I wanted an Xbox port, but then the system died...

I've only played 2 and 3, but I thought 2 was the freakiest. I'm torn between this and Silent Hill as my favourite Horror franchise. Grasshopper?! This should be interesting... They better not cellshade the hell out of it.

Eh, I think it'll be cool. :D

Why would GHM cell shade it? I hope - That GHM didn't carve in stone the logic of Foreign Market = Cell Shaded graphics ala Killer7. But, no, I don't really believe they'll do it with Fatal Frame. That was a throw away. By the way you just mentioned 4 almost consecutively GHM released games that feature cell shaded 3d model graphics, and you haven't even mentioned Flower Sun and Rain. Michigan is the exception in that row. Fatal Frame has a big international fanbase. No that big, but relatively, big. I've always felt that Fatal Frame needed more Lynchian like surrealism. Well, what I would like to see is 51 turning the Zero formula over it's head and start popping up a few twists that are the only thing I think is missing from previous games. Like, the protagonist being a murderer that killed every people that appears as a ghost in the game. Something like that. Or the main character dying or realizing there aren't any ghosts and it's all in her head. That would be balls.

By the way you just mentioned 4 almost consecutively GHM released games that feature cell shaded 3d model graphics, and you haven't even mentioned Flower Sun and Rain. Nah, Flower Sun & Rain isn't cell shaded. It just has a low polygon count like Final Fantasy VII. I own the game & play it regularly. FSR use's low polygon textures, pre rendered backgrounds & kick ass art. All of which combined help create the surrealistic style of FSR. Here's some blurry FSR walk through videos I made http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwhkOkCKPzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDzqnRS5ts (I could've swore that I uploaded more though.) I'm pretty sure that Silver Case 25 Ward was made in between the games that I just mentioned & that game was a text adventure. GHM, designs games according to how their contract dictates it. If a contract forbaded them to not use cell shading than they won't. Shining Soul II IMO is a clear example of how GHM closely emulates the feel of the original game while at the same time adding in a flavour of their own.

FF3 was best horror thing from both movies and games. The artdirection was suoerb, even the looks of places gave me creeps. FF3 had all major places of FF1 and 2 so it was good summary of the series + new (better) storyline with better lead(both females and male). I loved the easter eggs tupe subtle details , that what i call actual horror.And most of them takes place in protagonist house after each dream. Its like curse taking over house thru dreams gradually. Mine fav were Doll get hair increase gradually till end she gets long hair. old hag with stroller. Bathroom scene was biggest shocker, when you use camera on bloodstained hand on mirror suddenly nail lady pops up. the black cat grawls and then vanish to other screen, you open cupboard and WHAM! cat is in there. I wonder if the makers can maintain the horror and can actualy surpass the quality of previous titles. Frankly speaking i dont think they will. I smell cheap 3rd class product , just for wiimote fun, but actual game will not be as meaty. And yeah i was imagining FF in nextgen gfx, but wii? I am playing MP3 and wiimote suits for this type of complex game , still i think wii is gimmick. But people still praise this like revolution.

Wii is a huge gimmack. Its the biggest joke in the history of video games.

looks too incredible for wii game http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233759 , i hope http://www.wiiz.fr/medias/soft/1/2140/4.jpg http://www.wiiz.fr/medias/soft/1/2140/3.jpg are in game shots....fingers crossed.

Damn, it does look good. It honestly doesn't look like a Wii game. (To the point that I assumed it was just screen shots of a 360 port. Until I realized that the game is published by the BIG N.) Out of Project-S, Kurayami, & FF 4. FF 4 was the game that I was looking forward to the most. Why, you may ask? My favorite story from Suda 51 is Moonlight Syndrome, and it seems like he would write Fatal Frame in a similar fashion as Moonlight Syndrome. http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/moonlight.html (Only the story & cast pages are up for the time being. I'm saving all the majour spoilers for the investigation page at the main K7 SIN site.) Suda51 makes some pretty powerful emotionally tragic plots whenever he sets his mind to it. (CASE: PARADE from Silver Case is another fine example.) Moonlight Syndrome was basically a twisted love story about an incest couple who were separated due to a contract that Sumio made with a god of contracts named Mitra. When Ryo's older sister + lover died in a traffic accident he than placed most of his focus on Mika Kishi who looked like his sister. The way the plot was set up was tragic as fuck. So tragic that Ryo got his ass shot down in the intro level for Silver Case. Ryo already exhibited some signs of regressing sanity throughout Moonlight Syndrome, but it seems that he eventually went full blown insane after Mika Kishi died. Especially since he was the one who killed Mika. (Mika died when Ryo killed Mitra. Mitra still held possession over her.) What I think is even more fucked up is that the only reason Ryo has these feelings for Mika is because she looks like his older sister. So in a sense he was really just using Mika as an avatar for a lost loved one. (By loved, I mean love. The Kazans were full blown romantic lovers. Even the Pimp master Sumio couldn't get between them.) Part of the reason why the Twilight Syndrome fans hated on Suda after he made Moonlight Syndrome had to do with Suda 51 killing off the three main heroines (Yukari Hasegawa, Chisato Itsushima, & Mika Kishi.) from the Twilight Syndrome series. Suda51 didn't just kill them off either, he had them brutally murdered. (Suda 51 killed everybody in Moonlight Syndrome. The two survivors Ryo & Rumi died a couple days later during the game "Silver Case". The only true survivor is Yayoi, but she's an antagonist so she doesn't count.) After seeing what Mika & crews personalities were like http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/moonsin2.htm in the real Twilight Syndrome games I can kinda see why the fans were upset. Mika & co. were written as if they were real people. Mika is a Kinki Kid fan. Yukari is a Charles Bronson fan & she listens to The Cure. What would really kick ass is if Suda51 brings back Yayoi & Mitra for Fatal Frame 4. Which would connect Suda's Kill the Past with FF. (Kind of.) I've already heard rumours that Moonlight Syndrome & Siren 1 & 2 are connected. (From the "Chris's survival horror" blog.) So it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for Fatal Frame to connect with MS. The title is 'Rei ~Tsukihami no Kame~' or I suppose Fatal Frame: The Mask of the Lunar Eclipse. The key theme of the game is 'memories.' Yup, this definitely sounds like it might tie in with Moonlight Syndrome or Silver Case. Do I even need to explain the Lunar eclipse part? Just look at what a lunar eclipse looks like. http://images.google.com/images?q=lunar+eclipse&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=DVFA,DVFA:1970--2,DVFA:en&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi Than check out my Moonlight Syndrome site. http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/moonlight.html Memories are usually tied to one's past. Especially a past that they may wish to erase from their mind. Or in other words Kill the Past. Shit, Fatal Frame 4 maybe that one International GHM game that I've been waiting for. One that finally shows Suda's overseas audience just how talented of a writer he really is.

This comment is hilarious. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9537879&postcount=143 Has anyone here played "Michigan"? It was an early effort from Suda51, not sure it was ever released outside of Japan. Anyway, it was a survival horror FPS where you controlled a camera instead of a gun. You followed around a news reporter investigating freaky events, and influenced events by pointing things out with your camera. Being a Suda51 game, you got extra points for panty shots and gore. I'm sure seeing that on his resume is why Grasshopper got this. Michigan is quite possibly the least popoular game that GHM has made. (Not including the anime titles such as Blood & Champloo.) People seem to be forgetting that Suda 51 already had a cult following in Japan prior to Killer 7. What most people in Japan know Suda for is his ADV games. Specifically Silver Case, Flower Sun & Rain, and the Twilight Syndrome franchise. Even Hideo Kojima is familiar with Suda 51 through the Twilight Syndrome series. Nintendo most likely commissioned GHM, because GHM is run by Suda 51. The same guy who wrote half of the Twilight Syndrome games. (The twilight Syndrome games were big in Japan. It had it's own movie franchise & shit.) I've never played Twilight Syndrome, but it should be pretty decent if the writing is anywhere near as good as Moonlight Syndrome. (I have a feeling that Moonlight Syndrome's plot probably eclipses them all.) It's as I said earlier. Suda 51 has vast experience in writing horror games, and I'm hoping that he doesn't prove me wrong with FF 4. Damn, I friggin' love the plot for Moonlight Syndrome! It wasn't deep like SC/K7, or anything like that. It was just one of those dark macabre stories rife with shit loads of emotional & pointless, but inevitable tragedies. Moonlight Syndrome was one of those plots where you secretly wish for everything to turn out okay. Complete with a corny ass happy ending & all. Since this is Suda 51 he made Moonlight Syndrome end in the most fucked up way imaginable. (Think something like Killer 7's Union hotel ending, except everybody is getting brutally mutilated in real time by a fucking little kid who happens to be a god, lol.) The ending was so messed, to the point that people still wonder if Ryo was just imagining everything after level 2, or if you're like me you think that everything did happen & Mika became a corporeal spirit who transmigrates her soul between hosts & a tv medium like the Killer 7. Shit, I'm thinking of saving up my money now. I just might get a Wii for this game if Fatal Frame 4's writing is anything like Moonlight Syndrome.

Wow, I was secretly hoping the game would revolve around the main character's lost past and it's now a reality! Moon, Mask and Memories - these keywords are straight out of suda's vocabulary; It seems now that he had quite a part in the writing of this game. The graphics and atmosphere look too good for a wii game, which makes me wonder if the PS2 can pull this off as well... Considering Silent Hill 3's graphics (which to me remain unsurpassed in the PS2 machine) it wouldn't be too dificult to imagine this. It appears that I'll have to get me a wii somehow.