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KIRBY 7- 03-26-2008
Fight Club
Is it just me or is this movie pretty similar to Killer 7? I just watched it the other day. (I was sold the moment the talking penguin showed up & said "SLIDE") It even has camera/tv scenes like Killer 7. It's hilarious seeing that narrator guy throw himself down the stairs. The whole deal with Tyler Durden just screams K7 to moi. Especially the part in the end when the guy shoots himself in the mouth, and re associates himself with reality. (Much like Emir himself when he went up to the top of the Union Hotel.)

kaxantrom- 03-27-2008

wants to see it

ferlanga- 03-27-2008

It remembers me of the whole Sunset (the whole Ulmeyda scenario)chapter.

Sal- 03-27-2008

I know this movie very good and I never saw anything related to Killer 7 ( atleast it never came into my mind ) its a great movie, everybody should watch it ;D

KIRBY 7- 03-27-2008

Politcally, Fight Club is nothing like K7. Although Tyler Durden could be linked to Kun Lan in the sense that they both represent the idea of anarchy & chaos. I do believe that FC & K7 seem to mirror each other psychologically. What about the camera scenes that show reality as it actually is? Or the main character narrator guy who was so disassociated with his reality that he believed Tyler Durden to be a separate human being with its own mind, personality & body? (Actually that kinda sounds more like Flower Sun & Rain's Toriko/Sumio/ & Sundance, but so what the games are related anyway. Since I do believe that the Harman & Kun Lan that we see in the game are mere mind projections.) The thing that really seals the deal for me is when the narrator guy shoots himself in the mouth, like Emir Parkreiner did. Emir shoots himself to kill his past. (The memory of the murders in the Union Hotel. ) Emir comes back to the scene of the crime where he first shot himself in the mouth. The past that he killed comes back & synchronizes with Emir. Which then reawakens the real Emir personality. (Rather than the Garcian lie that he was living. Garcian is Harman's Persona.) The Killer 7 personae seized to exist after they were killed off from Garcian's state of mind during the Greg Nightmare battle. In Fight Club. Narrator guy shoots himself in the mouth to kill off his Tyler Durden persona away from his mind. (Similar to the scene when Kun Lan & Harman get tommy gunned to death.) Narrator guy becomes whole with his sense of self after he reawakens from his gunshot wound to the mouth. There is no more Tyler, he is Tyler. Everything that Tyler was has now synchronized with the Narrator's well being. Just like how Emir is Killer 7. Another similarity that I see is how everybody addresses the narrator as Tyler Durden yet the narrator himself is not consciously aware that he is Tyler. Same story with Garcian who was constantly sent letters addressed to Emir. He didn't realize that he is Emir until a man called Harman Smith told him so. Harman was basically Emir's Tyler Durden. The narrator created Tyler as both his dream self & as a personification of his repressed feelings about society as it currently is. IMO, Emir based the god like Harman Smith off of an image of a man called Harman Smith. Harmin Smith represented an authority figure in his life. Harman was the balance & order that Emir needed to justify the repetition that he relied on in order to forget the past. (Emir doesn't search for the truth until his repetition is broken when Samantha & Curtis died. By repetition I'm referring to that whole Shogun ritual that Garcian went through before every level.) Emir was able to function properly as Garcian. So long as the imagery & idolization of Harman remained intact. Think about it... Why do you think Harman shows up dead during the Lion scenario, & Kun Lan shows up as Iwazaru? IMO, they were just metaphors to show you that Emir has become whole with his true self. It was his imagery of Iwazaru, Kun Lan, Harman Smith, etc. That were holding him back from reality, because they kept shielding him from the truth of his situation. (The forbidden room in Garcian's trailer could be seen as Garcian being locked away from his truth & reality.) They were mental blocks. Emir can see more clearly now, because he killed off the mental blocks (Spiritual beings, hallucinations, who knows what they were?) that protected him from the reality that he wished to permanently repress from his mind.

Visionnerz- 03-27-2008

It is a great movie. Probably the best use of CG in a movie given the circumstances. If there's ever a remake of Naked Lunch, I'd want David Fincher to direct it. The funny thing is that despite how hugely popular Fight Club was around the time it came out, a lot of people(mostly kids) didn't even know what it was was about or what was even happening. You had Tyler Durden screenames everywhere and idiots making their own "fight clubs". Those 'fans' sort created this false image of what the movie was really about to those who hadn't seen it or read the book.

ferlanga- 03-27-2008

Funny because the "fight club" eventually has nothing to do with fights (if my memory serves right) and becomes somewhat of a cult of revolutionaries using terrorist methods. I remember whatching Naked Lunch in an hotel when I was younger, that movies was grotesque, with all its phalic symbols and such

Visionnerz- 03-28-2008

Yeah, Naked Lunch is another plot that really isn't for kids. A lot of it, they wouldn't be able to pick up on. The grotesque style of the special effects was kind of the director David Cronenberg's style back then. If you've seen other movies he directed like Scanners and The Fly there's also some pretty gross effects. But it was the visual metaphors and hallucinations in Naked Lunch that I found to be interesting. David Fincher probably wouldn't make them nearly as gross, but he'd definitely have an interesting version of the story I think.

Kitano Smith- 03-28-2008

If you watched and liked Fight Club and it's similarities to K7, all the more reason to check out a Tale of Two Sisters. Fight Club is awesome.

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