The average gamer likes what the other average gamers say it's cool. "OMFG I LOVE KILLZONE IT'S DARK AND MATURE AND YOU SHOOT WITH GUNS IT'S A MASTERPIECE" "FSR? WHAT A SHIT NOONE SPEAKS ABOUT IT. IS IT ON THE DS? WTF IT MUST BE A KID'S GAME BECAUSE THE DS IS A NINTENDO CONSOLE. I BOUGHT A PSP BECAUSE SONY DOES MATURE GAMES EHEHEHEHEH." (Ico is a sony game but they hate it because you do not have a machine gun) I couldn't care less. The videogaming industry is going to bitches because of these guys.

Nowadays if a game doesnt have brown color, bloom and master chief/mario its a bad game.

Yeah that's the thing I don't understand. Why is it that when people see games like FSR. Their immediate reaction is "????", "Huh", "Um, ok", "What the hell is this?" Yet when they see a game like Killer 7 everybody was salivating to kill some shit, only to find out that Suda was only using an FPS overcoat to disguise Killer 7's true intentions. As a commentary on the current hypocritical political policies & treaties that we have in place. "OMFG I LOVE KILLZONE IT'S DARK AND MATURE AND YOU SHOOT WITH GUNS IT'S A MASTERPIECE" This comment sums up the phenomenon perfectly. I think it's hilarious as hell how Killer 7 used the "It's dark & mature & shoot with guns" stock theme against the expectations of the gamer populace. (K7 was more Art house, than it was FPS. Much to the dismay of all of whom who were planning to go on a frag fest.) What bothers me is that FSR is dark & mature. FSR has some of the most humourous, but mature dialogue that I've seen in a game. Yet it gets overlooked, because you're not controlling a misproportinate jacked on steroids space marine with a big fucking gun. Instead you control Sumio, an average sized well attired man geared up in a sexy Italian made suit. Who may, or not have identity issues or what not. His only weapon is his wit. (It should also be noted that Sumio is also the same terrorist lunatic from Silver Case who manipulated a CEO to blow up an entire city.) In video games if you don't tell the player in the first 30 seconds that you're playing as the biggest baddest badass in the world. They will automatically be dumped in favour of other games that fit the norm. That's ok. I just wished that people wouldn't overrate the stories from games such as Gears of War as if it were some of clandestine epic. Another practice that I'm sick & tired of are games that think they're deep, because they are Alpha & Omega. The resurrected crucification of Jesus Christ. For some reason people believe a game is deep if you just mention the word "god" or reference the bible at least once. (HALO) I can finally see why Sega got rid of Yakuza's original name (Like a Dragon / Ryu Ga Gotoku) for the U.S. release. "Like a dragon" was a poetic title, because the full intended meaning behind the title "Like a Dragon" is "Be like a dragon among men". A more straight forward meaning is "A man among men" Which is exactly what Kiryu Kazuma is. Yet in the Western version Sega opted to take out any sign of intelligence that was contained in the original "Like a Dragon" title. In favour of one of the most generic titles I've ever seen. "YAKUZA" I can't even look up English information about the Yakuza organization anymore without the search engines directing moi to the irrelevant Sega game. Part of the reason why I think Yakuza flopped, is because the name Yakuza doesn't really appeal to any intellectual types who may have been looking for a game with an actual story. Not that the title "Like a dragon" would've helped anyway. Yakuza's English voice acting is way off. They all sound like wannabe badasses, when in the original Yakuza game they all sounded like they had actual personalities. I bring up Yakuza as an example a lot, because that's the no. 1 game that comes to mind that lost nearly all of it's artistic integrity when transferred for the Western audience. Yakuza in it's original form is pretty damn artistic. When converted to English Yakuza lost the majority of it's charm. The reason is because the localization team failed to replicate the "Like a Dragon" experience. What Sega's localization team opted for was a cheap imitation of Italian mob stereotypes using Japanese gangsters. Gyakuten Saiban on the other hand is a good example of a game that has a good localization effort. You would never guess that Phoenix Wright was originally set in Japan, because that's how well written the English Gyakuten Saiban is. A lot of people get mad when they hear Japanese gamers making fun of American gamers by claiming that we're all into over the top gore games, &DOA beach volley ball. From I'm seeing it seems to be the truth. To add insult to injury. THe guy who made Like A Dragon/ Yakuza said that he doesn't mind all the changes that were made in the American version of Yakuza. He said that Yakuza's localization changes are normal, and that America does it all the time. Talk about an indirect (but true) insult. Nowadays if a game doesnt have brown color, bloom LOL, that's another thing that I don't understand. Why is it that games that are coloured with constant shades of gray, & brown? Are usually considered "Realistic" by the gaming majority? I must live in a different planet not called Planet Earth. I don't know. When in I walk around in real life I tend to see a more vibrant colourful world. Games like Kane & Lynch tend to look more realistic despite the fact that the technology that K & L uses is severely outdated when compared to games that use the brown shade & bloom technique.

Is it really worth wasting your breath over it? Wink Honestly, its mentality is one of the reasons why i gave up on gaming in the first place. With lack of interest in niche gaming, businesses are afraid of risks and just cater to formalistic and safe releases to ensure sales. True, which is why I didn't bother to register for an account just to voice my opinion. It just sucks though, because I see myself playing classic SNK, MAME & 16 bit games more & more these days, because games from the old days weren't so pretentious. They were made just for fun, & are still fun to this day. (Kirby SuperStar) I get annoyed with most of the games that we have out in the market now, because they claim to have actual stories, but the majority are nothing more than hacks of discarded hollywood scripts. Which is why Suda appeals to me, because his writing style is more similar to a novelist. Which is a rare commodity in an industry that tries desperately (but unsuccessfully) to emulate the current trends in Hollywood film. A 15yr old male who: ranks GTA/Madden as their favourite games, thinks Metal Gear Solid is a masterpiece in storytelling, has never read a book in their life outside school, never seen a Lynch/Jodorowsky/Godard flick because its not publicly marketed blockbuster, and possibly a fan of shoenen anime. Wow, you pretty much pinpointed everything that I hate. Although I actually like GTA. Those games are fun as hell. I own all the 3d ones for the ps2. (GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas. I don't count the psp ports) I think GTA is some of the most intelligent satire in gaming today. The games deserve to be bought just to hear all the hilarious in jokes & punch lines that go into the writing. The way they portray the Yakzua in GTA 3 was right on point. The only thing they messed up on is that they couldn't even pronounce their names right. I like how GTA portrays CEO Corporate warfare as the most dangerous enemy, because that's exactly how the food chain is in real life. GTA's problem is that it has a legion of idiots (fans) who make GTA look dumber than it actually is. By guilt with association.

Y'know, at first I was all "Why's this game called Flower, Sun and Rain"? So I wiki'ed it up, googled all over the place, found some old game pages from the PS2 version, found here, and pretty much everything else I needed to know. I mean... How hard is that? The graphics can certainly be misleading for a bunch of people, but hell, haven't they even read the damn premise? There's no hope for these people if they're not hooked line and sinker on a concept like that, especially if they're interested in a premise like NMH. I get the sinking feeling some gamers will be all like, "WTF IS UP WIT DIS PLOT I DUN GET THIS LAWLZ KTHXBYE."

Yeah, soccer games its something I dont understands at all. As for me, i rather play mahjong games on MAME (just for the perversion, not the actual tablegame)

Well not all ppl said negative things about the ad at gametrailers if you click again The mainstream is like that blood, sex, guns, violence, beers, and liking the same things all over again as sport games, like madden in the US, in countries where soccer is the main sport, fifa sells good but not madden The media has a big influence on these, when you see halo ads and more halo ads ppl omg I want that cus that is the only thing they know,to me it is overrated , just bus they never played a real fps game on pc is like Warcraft, when there were other MMORPG games b4 than wow and better, but cus those games are Korean or cus they never heard of them they just became fans of wow and when they see this other MMORPG games they say those games suck I never saw Killer 7 ads on big broadcasting channels like mtv, never, even though it has blood, it did nah sell, when you start playing it you recognize it is a whole new game cus the gameplay, but most of the ppl can't deal with it, "the gameplay of killer 7 sucks" why cus it is something new, they just want to keep playing the same fucking things they always play they don't want to try something new, and after the first chapter of killer 7 they'd have loved the game but cus they said the gameplay sucks, they didn't even try it out, when we see something completely new, we can't say it sucks, like the mainstream, most of the population goes down the same road

Yeah, south america is very fond of soccer (up to the point they turn stupid). BTW how many country really like madden games?

1st of all make sure what genre we are talking about. FSR is an adventure game, adventure genre is already doomed, only fahrenheit was able to penetrate commercial market and sold really good. But all adv games are now centred towardfs pc , after PW , ds is becoming hunting ground fr adv games, thats why we are having fsr and SC on it, and probability of success. FSR is in jap, so its totally stupid to discuss abotu game untill we can get something to get in our brains.So thats another reason for ppl dissing it. Finally when we talk about killer7,sc or fsr its the anime outlook of these games that turnoff ppl. Consider K7 with real photo reaslsitc textures or with shaders , instead of anime celshading, it wold have attracted more pussies. I see anime/celshading as main problem, its not evryones cup of tea. You cant jus dis gears and cod4 shhoters dis mario and kirby too, they are not dark, not mature and stupid brainsless no story still you ppl prasie it for gameplay. These fanboys are same to those whol ike postapocalyptic shit of greys and brown, its just grows on them, (like the gameplay of gears and cod4 in multi player form). they like shootiing, they like those settings coz thats what 'stimulates' them. Is the matter of 'theme' and 'settings' what stimulates them and what stimulates you. Ppl dont give shit to stories coz they arent looking for one. And i hope fsr should make it to us, well if pw can it can be too localized

I'm not saying that a game that doesn't have a story is bad, I play a lot of games that do not have any story (like the legend of zelda), but I do not go in every forum saying that the plot of legend of zelda is god just because I like the game. I play also MGS for the gameplay. I like mgs gameplay, i finished every game by taking the best rank possible. But the plot is a pile of shit. (In italy MGS is considered the game with the best plot ever made.) I do not hate certain games, I hate the fanboys that go everywhere screaming how good the story telling is without even speak about the gameplay or everything else because they noteven understeand the gameplay. Because they play games just to appear cool to the other morons. Again the example of final fantasy 8. I might that in italy at least 3 people really understeand the junction sistem, but every single italian gamer loves ff8 for the plot that is a ripoff from "tre metri sopra il cielo" (an italian book that is an aborration from society. DIE MOCCIA DIE.) with swords and guns. Or again MGS. The 99% of the italians that owns mgs don't even suspect that is a stealth game and just go around killing people with big guns thinking "Omfg, liquid possesses ocelot throu his arm, this game is god". What I said before? "In italy MGS is considered the game with the best plot ever made."? I was wrong. For the average italian gamer (16-25 years old) The best game ever is Kingdom Hearts 2. You know what? Just talkin' about this things really pisses me off. I'm going to buy F.S.R. on the ds the same day that it'll be released in the us and fuck the average gamer.

I just know that fanboys are like bugs and they are also like religious fanatics *omg the Jesus freak fan, runs away* xD

Well back to the original topic (:P), I'm really excited for this game to come out....it had just BETTER be released in English over here. :P But yeah as for these mainstream games, I really enjoyed the Halo games. I think the plot is interesting and the game is just fun...but I'm not saying TIS BEST GAMEZ EVRZZZ!!!!!!!! I mean I work at Wal-Mart and I SERIOUSLY SERIOUSLY wonder if these people have even played the single player aspect in Halo3. I mean come on dude...Deathmatch can only interest me for so long dude. Friggin get over it. Some guy was telling me his 360 is on 24/7 because the dorm he lives in never stops and gets off of Halo3 zbox Live Multiplayer. Dude, get over it. You don't understand the IDIOTS I deal with at Wal-Mart though. They'll ask about some retarded Hannah Montana game, or ANY other kind of Disney Channel show game, and I'll tell em it's a piece of crap. The thing that gets on my nerves though is when I show someone a game that is REALLY amazing and is exactly the kind of game they told me they'd like to play and they end up NOT getting the great game I just pointed out for them and instead get a piece of garbage. You don't understasnd how many hunting, fishing, and sports games I sell there. Ughs. I want to vomit half the time. Even more so when they're wanting Disney Princesses or some garbage like that instead of something good like Hotel Dusk, Mario 64 DS, or heck even friggin Animal Crossing. MAN. Recently I've found MULTIPLE copies of the Pimp My Ride game being stolen!!!!!!! WHY?!!??! I'd be completely embarrassed to go to jail for stealing the Pimp My Ride game! I mean heck at least steal a GOOD game! You guys, I totally understand how you all feel but you don't REALLY know how most people buy until you work at a store that sells games. Heck people with a Wii will ask about a fishing game and I'll tell them to just get Zelda instead since it's got a nice, in depth fishing experience ON TOP OF a massive, wonderful quest that ranks among the best you can get in gaming nowadays but they'll just want the fishing. Ughs....... And no they didn't show but a second of gameplay footage which kinda ticks me off personally. I mean I'm fine with the FMV stuff, but show at least more than 2 split second shots of the gameplay. :P Regardless, I'm very excited to see this game come out over here. :D!!!