The whole "brown bags are actually guns" rule of thought came directly from Shockley Haynes.
Ah man, now you have me confused. Emir never died.
(Metaphorically yes, Physically no.)
At least that's the logical conclusion one would come to after hearing the FBI tapes.
http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/fbi.htm
From the tapes in that link. You get the impression that Emir was not his real name to begin worth. Emir is orphaned & his identity was fabricated by the government.
I'm pretty sure you already made a thread about this a year or two ago.
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I personally don't believe that reincarnation is involved at all.
The Harman Smiths in particular seem to be more of a case of transmigration or metempsychosis between hosts/vessels.
However, I'm a little unclear on the point of Garcian's obtaining of the powers of resurrection. Shockley Hanes's reasoning makes a hell of a lot more sense to me, in that the simply inherited it from Harman (whether via the Vision Ring or by other means). So how does Dan Smith trigger it?
The HIK7 timeline, makes more sense when you ignore the game. (As was meant to, because HIK7 is just the prototype.)
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The only logic that I could subscribe to this is that K7 was originally supposed a be bigger, more detailed plot that spanned several generations like the Silver Case.
Suda had to eventually scrap most of that & what we're left with is what he & Mikami managed to salvage.
It seems that when Suda planed Target Encounter.
It seemed that he wanted to do some what of an allegorical remake of Sumio's Parade case from the Silver Case.
Killer 7 seems to recreate a lot of events from Suda's silver case game. Except SC actually makes sense whereas K7 is all over the place, due to time constraints & most of the original plot being cut out.
To quote NoName.
As said earlier, the original story was chopped up for the final version of Killer7. The early version/Hand in Killer 7 story made sense. The timeline in HIK 7 had Curtis killing Dan in 1975, then Garcian recovering his body.
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The early version was following this somewhat; Curtis kills Dan, Garcian finds his body. The differences being it's not on a basketball court and it probably isn't 1975. There was a a coherent story at one point.
In this thread
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It (Killer 7) wasn't a "story" in the conventional sense but I did enjoy what was given and the ideas present. I enjoyed the themes, the characters, even how it was presented in its disjointed way. It made me think and that's what I require from a good story.
Isoule & I have came to the conclusion that K7 is just a cipher.
In other words K7 is not a story, but more of a vessel that speaks up on certain ideas, issues, & theories. Leaving the gamer with some food for thought that they may debate about with their peers.
In other words the games sole purpose is to cause you to think, and not be an automation merely going through the motions. (Which basically what the characters in K7 do. Most of them are only playing roles. Going through the motions without asking why they're doing what they do.)
Trying to make sense of the story in a linear sense is useless, because much of the game was cut & edited.
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As for an explanation that tries to make sense. This is the best that I can come up with.
http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/harmlun.htm
Harman Smith is an individual who has the uncanny ability to perform a ritual dubbed as the "Multifoliate Personae Phenomenon".
He can absorb, maintain, and transform into several personae that all exist parallel to
each other; their identities and their bodies keep their individuality,
yet they are bound to each other.
The following are reported methods of the process that Harman Smith undergoes
(1) He can only absorb corpses that meet unknown requirements
for compatibility.
(2) When Harman's consciousness recognizes that a corpse is
compatible with Harman, the corpse transforms into thousands
of small particles, which Harman's body absorbs.
(3) Incredibly, the absorbed body exists within Harman--with its
own personality completely intact!
(4) When a persona becomes manifested, Harman's physical form
changes completely, Harman's mental qualities change, too,
adopting the total personality associated with the body.
It is not known whether this is a biological deformity or a supernatural occurrence.
"Multifoliate Personae Phenomenon" bares similarities to "Disassociative Identity Disorder"
Harman took in a young man named Emir Parkreiner at the roof of the Union Hotel, the night of the Killer 7 murders.
Topdrunkee's Note:
When Killer 7 was originally conceived (Hand in Killer 7)
The Killer 7 were suppose to be personae that Harman Smith absorbs into his conscious where he maintains & controls them.
Harman can morph into the other personae that all exist parallel with each other.
The identities of the personae each have their own identity & personality intact from when they were still alive.
Garcian Smith is Harman Smith's first persona that he absorbed into his consciousness.
This ability that Harman has is called the "Multifoliate Personae Phenomenon".
http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/3rdeye.htm
The so called Killer 7 were all annihilated by Emir.
The Killer 7 have been recreated to ease Emir of the psychological pain that he endured during the Union Hotel incident.
For you see he suffers from a lack of mental stability,
and has what is commonly known as
"Disassociative Identity Disorder"=
The presence of two or more distinct identities or personality states
(each with its own relatively enduring pattern of perceiving, relating to, and thinking about the environment and self).
At least two of these identities or personality states recurrently take control of the person's behavior.
Inability to recall important personal information that is too extensive to be explained by ordinary forgetfulness.
The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., blackouts or chaotic behavior during Alcohol Intoxication)
or a general medical condition (e.g., complex partial seizures).
Note: In children, the symptoms are not attributable to imaginary playmates or other fantasy play.
Dissociative Identity Disorder is also referred to as Multiple Personality Disorder.
Source: HealthyPlace.com
Due to the traumatic experience of the Union hotel murders,
Emir devised a new identity for himself.
His new identity separated & severed consciously from Emir's original identity.
Through the new identity as Garcian Smith, Emir had lost contact with his very own
perceptions, self-awareness, and memory.
This process further escalated as he created personae
for each of the victims that he had murdered that faithful night.
As the conception of the Killer 7 began to emerge,
each of their respective personae piled up inside Emir.
The Killer 7 stacked one persona on top of the other before,
burying Emir's original identity at the bottom.
Killer 7 are the remnant psyches that have been shielding him from the truth that Emir had wished to forget.
Harman Smith on the other hand has a relation to Garcian that transcends much deeper than that...
Garcian is originally a persona of Harman Smith,
therefore Garcian is also able to tap into the ritual known as Multifoliate Personae Phenomenon.
This is the celestial like ability to morph & become an entirely new entity.
Emir's fictional reality began to collapse due to the deaths of both Samantha Sitbon & Chris Mills.
Shortly after a series of events transpired that ultimately led up to dismantling the illusion of Emir's charade.
He had came face to face with his past, and finally embraced who he truly was. Emir Parkreiner, now rid of the other seven personae that has been living life in his stead,
Has became reacquainted with his viciously suave, bloodthirsty killer instinct.
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Topdrunkee's note:
The difference between Harman & Emir is that Harman's personae all exist as separate entities & Harman Smith is recognized as the dominant personality.
Emir on the other hand has all his personalities stacked up one after another like a deck of cards.
With his original personality being at the very bottom.
Buried beneath the rest of the Smith personae.
Harman is fully in control of his abilities whereas Garcian has a whacked out case of Disassociative Identity Disorder.
What makes Emir's case so special is that Garcian Smith was originally one of Harman Smith's personae.
note: Garcian is also Harman's first absorbed persona.
Which means the Garcian Smith persona allowed Emir the power to transform into his other personas & be able to acquire their abilities & personalities at the same time.
If Garcian Smith did not exist than Emir would not be able to morph into his other personalities.
He would just be a normal psycho path that has a Disassociative Identity Disorder.
(During the last level he can not change shape,because he finally broke the hypnosis that lead him to believe that he was Garcian Smith)
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While we're at it, may I ask: Is there any explanation as to exactly how Emir was 'reborn' as Garcian Smith?
He woke up one day & thought he was Garcian.
There's a similar character from Silver Case & Flower Sun & Rain who undergoes a similar split personality disorder.
His name is Sumio Kodai.
http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/sumio.htm
Notable: It is believed in some circles that Garcian Smith is actually a stock body of Sumio Kodai. Garcian & Sumio are both orphaned by their respective governments.
This speculation stems from Ed Maclister's dialogue during his first cutscene in Killer 7
"Garcian: How do you know my name?
Ed Macalister: "I remember all the names of our guests. Including your bag sir."
When Ed say's "Including your bag sir." He was actually referencing Sumio Mondo's briefcase "KATHARINE"
Katharine also happens to be the name of Emir Parkreiner's alleged mother.
Which means that Ed either believes or senses that Garcian Smith is actually a stock body of Sumio Mondo
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Surely there must be some political meaning behind 'EAGLE', but it's an interesting coincidence.
Eagle refers to "America/Patriot". (Eagle= Bald American Eagle.)
The final level is called "Lion".
Which refers to China. Lion= Sleeping Lion/China.
The epilogue ends at Shanghai further reinforcing the China connection.
The nukes that were directed toward Japan came directly from Kun Lan as the Eastern Threat who is said to be of Chinese half Tibetan extraction.
Here's an english translation from some k7 fansite.
http://bloody-heartland.net/
