No more heroes related to FSR?

No more heroes related to FSR?
It seems that this theory is not wrong after all, Drunkee mentioned this in the NMH topic months ago. Anyway, I was lurking Suda's blog when I got into this entry: http://prg.mmv.co.jp/blog/nomoreheroes/cat11/ It looks like something irrelevant, but if you see the properties of the plane image, it says something like http://prg.mmv.co.jp/blog/nomoreheroes/FSR_airplane-thumb-150x88.jpg I dunno what it says in the blog entry, maybe something about the relation of two games. Then there's another entry talking about the DS remake from FSR: http://prg.mmv.co.jp/blog/nomoreheroes/cat14/ It mention something about the UAA from NMH, from what I could perceive. So, are we going to see some type of Side mission related to NMH in the remake? It will lead us into a conclusion of the battle between Travis and Henry? We would see Sylvia wasting all the money she earned from fees on that paradisiac resort? I don't think so... it seems that it was some type of viral marketing to publicize FSR, just watch this: http://www.mmv.co.jp/special/game/ds/fsr/ Go to features and click into the third button. (I wanted to upload an image of this, but my crappy connection didn't let me) What do you think about this?

Hahahah, cute. Real cute. Man those screens are tiny... I'm assuming Sumio's able to have a change of wardrobe in this game?

imo NMH can exist in the same timeline of FSR, but i guess it is not so important. I think that Killer7 was originally planned to be in the same timeline too, because of the presence of Sundace Shot in one of the first trailers, so if no more heroes take place in the official kill the past universe, the Emir appearing in NMH should be the original Emir of the first trailers (the one with blinking eyes). Maybe in the brand new 50 missions will be shown some connection to Killer7 and NMH, but imo is not an essential feature in the game.

LOL, I like how the website has all the sfx from FSR. Yeah it seems to be just viral marketing. The first blog entry has nothing to do with FSR at all. The person writing the blog is leaving for the U.S. & Europe for awhile. In the second entry I think UAA refers to the person writing the blog entry. So I don't think we're seeing anything concrete yet. Although this is just a false alarm. At least we get to see what the bitching cover looks like.

Damn that cover is creepy. (You'll know what I mean once you play it.) I wouldn't count out the NMH connection yet. It's usually not Suda's style to reveal anything that big, this early. (He usually lets the twists happen when the game comes out. Like NMH's Emir.) I wonder what it was like for Suda fans who followed him since Moonlight Syndrome? They must've been shocked when the survivors from Moonlight Syndrome made guest appearances in Silver Case, & then were killed off during the beginning of the game. FSR must've been just as shocking when it was released, since I'm guessing that it wasn't advertised with the huge Silver Case connections at all. Even when you know about the SC connections. The final plot twist at the end of the game is still unexpected (& hilarious) as hell. Although I probably already ruined the ending for y'all. It involved a certain character from Silver Case. No not Sundance. There's at least 4 or 5 other characters from SC who appear in FSR. One of them seems to be missing in action until the game ends. Like Emir, this person doesn't actually show up until the ending. In FSR's case, this guy doesn't appear until after the credits roll, and the game gets all weird & fucked up. (It looks as if you inserted & started a different game inside your system. Even though you're still watching the ending.) It will lead us into a conclusion of the battle between Travis and Henry? We would see Sylvia wasting all the money she earned from fees on that paradisiac resort? Even if the FSR port contains connections to NMH. I doubt that it would be anything as overt as that. Fir example Killer 7 actually concluded the final plot hole from Moonlight Syndrome, but K7 did it without actually telling you. http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/killthepast.htm In Killer 7 we later find out that The Smith Syndicate are all dead, & we actually transmigrate their souls into Emir through the use of the tv as a medium. Through the course of the game mechanics of Killer 7. We are indirectly explained how Mika was able to hug Ryo during the credits. She was actually a corporeal spirit, who may have been using Rumi's body as a host. Just like how the Killer 7 utilize Emir's body as the main host in order to exist in the physical plane. So in effect it's not that K7 is referencing Moonlight Syndrome. Killer 7 is actually closing the final chapter in the Moonlight Syndrome game. (The only remaining loose thread from Moonlight Syndrome is Yayoi Itsushima/Hanayama herself.) I'm not sure if k7 concluding MS's ending was intentional, but it sure as hell pieces together the puzzle that I call "Moonlight Syndrome's cliffhanger ending." IMO, I feel that the only character from NMH that we might see in FSR is Shinobu. (The only ranked assassin from NMH who Travis spared. He spared her, because he plans to brutally murder her when she gets older.) If somebody from K7 shows up. It'll obviously be Garcian. Since Ed & him spoke to each other 9 yrs. later in K7. (I'm not even going to bother with how that would be possible. FSR takes place during 2001 in the SC setting.) Man those screens are tiny... I'm assuming Sumio's able to have a change of wardrobe in this game? Now this is something that definitely wasn't in the original game. (There's no reason to change your clothes in the original.) It sure is weird seeing Sumio not wearing a badass suit. He looks so fucking ordinary without his badass suits. At least he looks more like a tourist now. imo NMH can exist in the same timeline of FSR, but i guess it is not so important. I think that Killer7 was originally planned to be in the same timeline too, because of the presence of Sundace Shot in one of the first trailers, There's no doubt that NMH could exist in the same timeline, because there's nothing about NMH's timeline that contradicts the original Silver Case setting. Killer 7 on the other hand, had all those crazy bans on trans communications & the like. Which in effect would make it impossible for NMH & K7 to exist in the same setting. (Unless NMH occurred before 2001. Before the ban took place.) I agree that K7 was probably meant to take place in the same exact universe as GHM's original games. You already mentioned one reason. The other clue is that the Heaven Smile originally looked like people who went insane (or lifeless) due to the Moonlight Syndrome.

Just look up the original Killer 7 trailers that had Garcian wearing a purple suit, & glasses. (That concealed his glowing eyes of clairvoyance.) Or just watch the K7 SIN music video, since I used a lot of scenes from the original builds. http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/k7sinvid.swf Look at the way the Smiles looked in those trailers. They have the same exact face expression as those Moonlight Syndrome rejects. They're in Silver Case as well. FSR doesn't have them, because it was bit more light hearted like NMH. so if no more heroes take place in the official kill the past universe, the Emir appearing in NMH should be the original Emir of the first trailers (the one with blinking eyes). Exactly, this is a picture that i made for the Kill the past page in my site.

http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/killthepast.htm I was going to reveal this once NMH comes out a couple days from now, but I doubt that I'll even make the deadline. So I'm now changing the focus of this site into a general Suda 51 site. (Although the main focus will be on Kill the Past/ Kill the Life) Maybe in the brand new 50 missions will be shown some connection to Killer7 and NMH, but imo is not an essential feature in the game. That's what I've been hoping for all along. Well I'm hoping for only a couple missions to be related to K7 & NMH. The rest can just be brand new ones with no connections to other games. I want one more scenario with Yayoi Itsushima though. Suda needs to settle it once & for all. Are they the same person? http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/Yayoisamein1.jpg If they are the same person (for real) then damn. She has to be the sneakiest, most conniving character in Suda's setting. Since she's the only character from Moonlight Syndrome who's still alive. (She was allied with the antagonist from Moonlight Syndrome.) The FSR port seems to be more than just a mere port. The subtitle for the DS game is called "Unending Paradise". Not that the title is significant or anything. I'm just saying that a direct port of the original PS2 game wouldn't really need a subtitle to begin with.

Man, I really wanna know what killer7 would be if it would be placed in the kill the past canon, I can hope for a remake in the future but I guess is nearly impossible. Even HIK7 is obviously out of canon (because of the motherfucker bans and whatsover), so we really don't know the TRUE original plot of the game. And IMO Suda with NMH and maybe with the FSR/SC ramakes is planning to introduce in the canon the Emir we saw in the first trailers (and he's already dead in NMH, lol), maybe by changing his name to avoid trouble with capcom and to not create confusion. What i am saying is that the Emir we see in No More Heroes ending isn't obviously the same Emir of K7 (Because of the bans and because NMH probably takes place before 2012) but he could have a new role in a future ghm game or in the FSR remake, a role that the K7 Emir was planned to have if the game had the canon plot that suda thinked at the beginning of development. Or maybe I just got drunk and I'm saying bullshit. EDIT: This is the first trailer of killer 7, this is the only one feautring the crazy smiling people instead of the heaven smiles. Here Emir is a litlle more fat and he has the blinking eyes. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/1801.html In this second trailer they talk about the bans and the other stuff in the game, but it shows also emir with the blinking eyes again, a lot of scenes that never got into the final game and the face of Sundance Shot. I remember that in this trailer is wrote that the bans took only two years, but i am not sure. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/1802.html

maybe by changing his name to avoid trouble with capcom and to not create confusion. I doubt that it has anything to do with avoiding trouble from Capcom. This isn't the first time that GHM used other companies characters. Silver Case was originally co owned by Ascii, yet they were still used in FSR. (FSR is published by the same people who published NMH.) Ascii's game division doesn't exist anymore so GHM now has full rights to the SC cast. Emir Parkreiner isn't even his real name in the first place. Y. Harman said it himself. Emir's an agent of the government. People like Emir use aliases all the time. Especially when you think about Sumio who also operated under an alias. (Sumio may not be an assassin, but he does work for the government.) A name is just a word that we use in order to identify somebody. Names aren't fail proof identification cards. Especially when you take into account that most of Emir's family ties were killed off or erased before he was given the identity of Emir. What i am saying is that the Emir we see in No More Heroes ending isn't obviously the same Emir of K7 (Because of the bans and because NMH probably takes place before 2012) but he could have a new role in a future ghm game or in the FSR remake, a role that the K7 Emir was planned to have if the game had the canon plot that suda thinked at the beginning of development. Seems likely. I personally think that it is the same exact Emir from Killer 7. After Emir realized that he is the Killer 7. IMO, Killer 7's setting should be deemed as irrelevant until we see other games referencing that setting. I've always pictured Emir popping in as a random assassin in the main Silver Case games. Despite the fact that Killer 7's world contradicts SC's. IMO it just seems like something that we're not really suppose to think about. I feel that the Killer 7 setting just doesn't exist unless it's referenced by the other games. FSR & the Moonlight Syndrome are definite entities, because they're referenced in almost every single game. NMH uses the same exact "code speak" that were used in MS & SC. Everytime a Rank battle is introduced in NMH. (I'm referring to those robotic voices that say Destroy Man, Dr. Peace, Holly Summers, etc.) Ed Macalister in K7 is the same exact guy from FSR, despite the fact that FSR takes place in the SC setting. (I personally believe that FSR relates to every single game. Including Moonlight Syndrome & NMH.) We never learn his identity during the game though. Besides he's just a bell hop. (Or masquerades as one at least.) In this second trailer they talk about the bans and the other stuff in the game, but it shows also emir with the blinking eyes again, a lot of scenes that never got into the final game and the face of Sundance Shot. I remember that in this trailer is wrote that the bans took only two years, but i am not sure. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/1802.html You don't just see Sundance, you also hear his voice. (You never hear his voice in FSR, but the spoken dialogue in the trailer sounds like something he would say.) I wonder what Sundance's role in K7 was supposed to be anyway. It kinda seems like overkill to have him, Kun Lan, & Harman all in the same game.

Heh Kaede seems to be more hard boiled in the beta trailer than what she is now. And shes more buxom in that second trailer! Seeing these old trailers is kinda fun, especially when you compare em to the final product. I wonder what the hell happened to Curtis in that second trailer? The game informer that reports on Killer 7 uses that same screen shot and talks about how the grusomeness is hidden. Dan is also a trip in the beta trailer, dude just turns around and draws in a freaking nano second to cap that nun chick (?) I love how Con was originally using dual uzis in the beta trailer. And is it me or does that second trailer seems more bloody that the final copy?

Wow, that second trailer is really stylish! Also, how adorable!

IMO, Killer 7's setting should be deemed as irrelevant until we see other games referencing that setting. We can just assume that the bans and the other things are just a lie created by the government for emir to not let him communicate to anyone isn't controlled by them, i guess that in this case it would fix in the main timeline of KTP. A little forced, but, it would work. Maybe I'll write a fanfiction about how killer 7 could take place in the KTP universe, but first i wanna play FSR and SC in english to better understeand the big picture.

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