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venom75x- 12-10-2007

woah buddy i wouldnt go that far id say its good at least but comparing it to dmc 4 theres no con-*test*-('") dmc has the alternate styles which is why the gameplay is nice im not really a fan of games that copy dynasty warriors

KIRBY 7- 12-10-2007

Official site http://www.d3p.co.jp/one/r.html I love Reiko's new look. She bleached her hair & now wields a SMG instead of a shotgun. http://www.siliconera.com/2007/12/07/feel-my-zombie-slaying-passion-a-look-at-oneechanbara-r/#comments That siliconera post doesn't make any sense. Oneechanbara Revolution is hardly a “revolution” from the Oneechanbara series. The upcoming Wii installment incorporates in an on-sight counter system, Devil May Cry style combo rankings and waggle control. Tamsoft polished the graphics too, which would have been fine if Oneechanbara R was a budget title. And it’s not. Most of these Next gen games are lil' more than minour graphic upgrades. What makes Oneechanbara different? That it needs to be singled out from the rest of the pack? Anyway Onee games have always had DMC style combo ranking since the very first game back when it was still a budget series. I would've posted my reply at Siliconera, but he never posts my comments for some reason. I actually wrote a comment correcting his piece about FSR. (But he never posted it up for all to see.) http://www.siliconera.com/2007/11/30/the-sun-shines-again-flower-sun-and-rain-gets-a-ds-port/ I merely told him that the DS version actually has better (& more proportionate) graphics than the psone game. I also pointed out that Sumio is not an assassin, & that the info about FSR contained in the GHM site is unreliable, because it seems to be translated by a google translator. IMO siliconera seems to just be jumping on the bandwagon of hate for Oneechanbara. He doesn't really strike moi as someone who has actually played the game. P.S. Why are so many game blogs inaccurate with their information? It seems to moi that only GameSetWatch & Gamasutra are reliable. woah buddy i wouldnt go that far id say its good at least but comparing it to dmc 4 theres no con-*test*-('") dmc has the alternate styles which is why the gameplay is nice im not really a fan of games that copy dynasty warriors Oneechanbara plays more like DMC than it does Dynasty Warriors. Oneechan just has the unfortunate affliction of everybody playing the game as if it were Dynasty Warriors. Which is exactly what I meant by my comment when I say everybody plays Oneechan as if it were Dyansty Warriors. What's actually going on in that gameplay trailer. Is that the player is actually using both the main attack button, & the kick buttons in cohesion with each other to perform their combos. (Oneechanbara uses four main buttons. Main attack, kick, projectile, & jump.) He also inputs timed button commands that allow him to do the sword sweep combos & the like. It's obvious the person playing the game, actually read the goddamn instruction manual, lol. When the gothic loli Saki is dancing around ripping peoples heads off & shit. What the player is actually doing is timing his projectile button presses correctly according to Saki's animation frame. (The projectile button is actually a grapple button whenever the player is in control of Saki.) There's so much depth going on in that video that I would have to write a friggin' novel just to describe it. He was f'ng playing Oneechabara as if it were Guilty Gear. (Which is a positive thing.) Yes you can beat the game just pressing the same button over & over again, but you won't able to do the badass shit that the player was doing in the video unless you know how to play Oneechan properly. I myself used to have a pretty good Oneechanbara 2 boss fight uploaded at youtube before my account was deleted It was a perfect example of the reflexes that you needed in order to survive the boss encounters. The boss fight was a double team between two Zombie school girls. One of them is actually an unlockable character in the 360/Wii version. The lilttle zombie chick is armed with Vega claws & she chases you all over the place. The bigger Zombie girl fights with a ball & chain like Gogo Yubari. She fucks you up whenever you try to attack. (In my Onee boss video you see myself constantly cart wheeling & throwing shurikens every where. It wasn't until the 3rd minute mark that I actually found a opening big enough for I to do some decent damage.) Although I will say it straight up that any DMC game is better (gameplay wise) than an Oneechanbara game. (Yes, possibly even DMC 2. I wouldn't know I never played DMC 2.) The majority of Oneechanbara plays like a death survival match. Basically you run around until you reach a dead end, than kill everybody. Rinse & repeat. You basically run around searching for keys in order to unlock new areas. IMO the missions are way too long for it's own good What kills Oneechan is that the normal enemies are stupid like a Dynasty Warriors game. (The actual fighting engine is based off of DMC though.) The boss fights are pretty good though. (Provided that you don't use a LVL 99 character.) Whereas DMC lets you traverse through actual Resident Evil like worlds & exploration. Although DMC is marred imo, by all the backtracking & pointless puzzle solving bull shit that the game throws at you. IMO I hate the way both DMC & Oneechan is laid out. I prefer the old school Streets of Rage approach. I think both of these games would be far better if I were just thrown into straight forward stages where all I do is kill shit. No solving dumbass puzzles, no searching for retarded ass keys. No goddamn back tracking. (Which both Oneechanbara & DMC are immensely guilty of.) The funny thing is the only game that actually does follow the old school approach is Dynasty Warriors. Which is why I feel that's the only current gen game that plays like a pick em up & play old school beat em up.

venom75x- 12-10-2007

i do agree with you that dynasty warriors is an easy title to pick up and play the only problem dynasty warriors suffers is the lack in ai in enemies and the same repetitive missions ive seen this one game that had the similar formula dynasty warriors uses but put more depth into it ive seen my brother play it and i was impressed its called kingdom under fire i believe. And i agree with you on the streets of rage comment have you played the remake by the way A game i like better than dmc is god of war theres no back tracking in god of war and the combat system is pretty nice

mokoi- 12-12-2007

I noticed it got rated "D" not "Z". So hopefully D3 will bring it to america it would be rated M.

True Grave- 12-13-2007

Holy...the new Reiko is hot!! I hated the puzzle solving in any of the DMCs. But, God-forbid there would be a video game that was all action...

mokoi- 12-14-2007

Yea DMC puzzle solving sucked. Even the ones where it was a riddle written like on a wall and it was in like middle age language and i couldn't understand a damn thing.

True Grave- 12-15-2007

I mean in the end you had to do it. Its like the game was just pacing itself. Kicking ass fighting, then a slowdown with some puzzles-catch your breath-then its back to the fray. It was cool to have some puzzles reward you instead of just unlock a stupid door. I loved how you got Alastor, and the Ifrit gaunlets. Man those names take me back... Seriously though, why can't Dante retain Alastor in DMC4? Whats with this rebellion sword shit? DMC2 brings that in, and it had to go into DMC3 since he didn't have Alastor yet. But the freaking sword bonded with him! Says so in the game! I just hope Al is one of many swords Dante can wield in DMC4.

KIRBY 7- 12-15-2007

i do agree with you that dynasty warriors is an easy title to pick up and play the only problem dynasty warriors suffers is the lack in ai in enemies and the same repetitive missions ive seen this one game that had the similar formula dynasty warriors uses but put more depth into it ive seen my brother play it and i was impressed its called kingdom under fire i believe. And i agree with you on the streets of rage comment have you played the remake by the way A game i like better than dmc is god of war theres no back tracking in god of war and the combat system is pretty nice I love Kingdom Under Fire. (I've only played Heroes. Still looking for the first xbox game.) That's not a hack n slash though. It's a console style RTS mixed with some hack n slash, but overall the game is more about tactical strategy. The actual fighting engine is even more primitive than Dynasty Warriors, but it doesn't really matter because KUF's A.I. is actually pretty good. The way you described Dynasty Warriors is exactly what makes it feel like an old school beat em up. I don't recall Final Fight nor Streets of Rage ever having good a.i., and the objective for every stage was basically the same. (Dynasty Warrior games also tend to have bigger & more move sets then the two aforementioned games.) But whatever all I'm saying is that Oneechanbara doesn't play like Dynasty Warriors. You actually need to learn how the combo system works in order to pull off the moves that are shown in that trailer. Onee can be played like Dynasty Warriors, but the actual fighting engine is free form like a DMC game. I don't really like God of War. I hate Tekken style dial a combos. To moi God of War is like the American equivalent of Yakuza, both games are overrated as hell, and aren't deserving of their reputation. (At least God of War has a better battle engine than Yakzua though.) They seem to only get noticed because of their high production values. DMC would be the best if it just rid of all it's Resident Evil inheritance. (backtracking, lame puzzles, etc.) Now God Hand, that game is on a whole nother level. (Which is only shared with Urban Reign imo.) IMO, the only way to make a beat em up better than god hand. Is for somebody to implement the fighting engine from Virtua Fighter into a beat em up game. Yeah the Streets of Rage remake by Bombergames is off the hook. I think it's way better than the 3 official SOR games. Plus Adam is in it, nuff said.

venom75x- 12-15-2007

yea but we all have seen what happens when virtua fighter gets incorporated into a beat em up you get virtua quest but then again there was shenmue and that game was a classic but that was more open world than virtua crap i mean quest

True Grave- 12-17-2007

Yeah I was going to mentioned that, how Shenmue's fighting system was essentially taken from Virtua Fighter. Shemue might have had a better chance in the market if it was tooled around a straight up brawler than an adventure game. I agree that DMC should drop the RE antics. Its practically common knowledge now that the early RE4 turned into DMC1. In the end it worked, but it needs to drop it now. Same goes for Ninja Gaiden on xbox. The entire game is one huge ass quest of back-tracking. When you start mission 3 you enter the area of the game that needs 3 keys to open which will lead you to the end boss. So you go out, get the keys, and unlock the door which is all one big ass back-track quest through the Tairon city. Ninja Gaiden also has a horrible story. Itagaki took the Ninja Gaiden story and melded it into the DOA story line. Big mistake IMO. But hell, he did rip Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden to put into DOA in the first place. But Ninja Gaiden on xbox had a bad-ass bad guy in a black armor clad samurai outfit named Doku who's face is essential fire, and had a big titty super chick to be your partner. The only reason why this game sold was its flawless gameplay.

decoy- 01-25-2008

Ninja gaiden is balatant ripoff of dmc, form hightime, orbs collecting and feeding to upgrade weapons and so much , i hate jinja gaiden camera and its leveldesign is supoer cheesy , typical. And now in NG2 they are going with real locations, no craeativity again in locations. anyways here is new trailer with jap chick in hit doing bad cosplay, however game itslef looks better for wii http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29951.html

KIRBY 7- 01-25-2008

The only reason why this game sold was its flawless gameplay. In the end, that's all that really matters. Itagaki knows how to sell & package games. You said it yourself. and had a big titty super chick to be your partner. Itagaki is all about the dollar bill. (His games are more popoular in the U.S.) I wish I could say that Oneechanbara sells because of it's gameplay, but I only love these games, because I love 70's exploitation/grind house films. Onee games are popolar in Japan, but the only reason why is because the girls are hot. I see a lot of people on the net comparing NMH to Oneechanbara, but I can't con-*test*-('") that, because it's true. Both games are more about the style than the gameplay itself. Although I see a lot of folks saying that Onee lacks style & originality. I seriously can't think of any other game that combines zombies, hot pornstar chicks, swords & guns & manages to turn it into some wacky ass 70's exploitation shit. (People like to throw around the word ANIME, but shit people do that with Killer 7 as well. K7 is more like a Tarrantino/Miike film than anything else.) The only thing that really comes close to Oneechanbara's style is NMH (NMH has more style) & Kitamura's movie "Versus" (Versus has the same exact concept as Oneechan. Just replace badass Yakuza with sexy ass babes dressed like Las Vegas whores.) anyways here is new trailer with jap chick in hit doing bad cosplay, however game itslef looks better for wii http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29951.html When the hell will D3 get it right & hire a pornstar to cosplay Aya? (I can think of at least five women who could play the Aya role well. Sana Yoshizaki is who I'd bank my money on.) Even Sega hired a pornstar for Yakuza 2, Suda 51 himself pimps out erotic celebrities from Japan. LULZ at all the retard comments at gametrailers. People are complaining about the lack of blood splatter on their clothes. The funny thing is that collateral blood splatter on these chicks clothes is actually an integral part of the gameplay. So I don't know wtf they're complaining about. I almost had a heart attack laughing at the "lack of realism" comment. It's a fucking video game. Fuck realism! The only thing that should be realistic are the character motivations & personalities. ALthough in a game like Oneechanbara the only thing that matters is how exploitive the game can get while avoiding the censors at the same time. The Wii game looks like it has an improved combo system, unfortunately it all goes down the dumpster, because of the waggle controls. It takes out all the timing & precision that was once needed in order to play these games. (The right way.) Just look at the sword slash combo. That girl just swings her wii stick from left to right. In the PS2 game you actually had to time your button presses in conjunction with the third animation frame during your basic combo. The controls for the Wii game look more noob friendly. (Like a Dynasty Warriors game.) I take back what I said earlier. I guess the Wii game really does play like Dynasty Warriors. (Onee 2 & up had a battle system that was a direct rip off of DMC.) I finally got my new youtube account up, so I'll upload some videos of myself playing Oneechanbara the way it's supposed to be played. All these bastards I see online for some reason or another... have no f'ng idea how to pull off a lot of these special moves & combos in the game. They just press square over & over. (It's annoying. It's like watching some scrub playing Street Fighter who can't do a basic two hit combo.) yea but we all have seen what happens when virtua fighter gets incorporated into a beat em up you get virtua quest Virtua Quest was the result of some retarded fat guys in suits. Who felt that marketting Virtua FIghter to kids would be a success. No (9 yr. old) kids play Virtua Fighter, wtf were they thinking? The actual Virtua Fighter engine was just misused. Yeah I know about Shenmue, but Grave already pointed out why it failed. I wish the Yakuza games would use Virtua Fighter's battle system. (Same company, different development team.) Yakuza's battle system sucks. It relies on cheap gimmicks. The heat moves are badass, I just wish they were actually incorporated into the game play. (Rather than just pressing triangle to do some badass shit.) Yakuza 2 is a lot better, but that's because they implemented more QTE during battles. (The battle system is still one lame ass gimmick, but at least it's not as noticeable as the first game.) Remember when Shimano would try to throw you into a speeding car in Yakuza? Yakuza 2 is filled with badass attacks like that.

decoy- 01-26-2008

I want to see oneechanbara turned into OVA , they should have spent money on that rather than this wii game.

kaxantrom- 02-09-2008

I heard that are gonna make the movie I think

KIRBY 7- 07-10-2008

Onechanbara: Bikini Zombie Slayers http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/onechanbara-bikini-zombie-slayers/preview/onechanbaras-coming-to-the-wii/a-20080708163240209067/g-2008070816245374048 So the game is finally coming state side. Best of all they actually gave this title a suitable name. BIKINI ZOMBIE SLAYERS I swear I would buy any movie or game with that name in an instant, epcially if it looked like oneechanbara. Bikini Zombie Slayers seems to match this game more than the official nickname does. (Onee also goes by the name "The Sister Roses") If only Yakuza could've been given a suitable name change that matched the theme of the game. (Such as "A dragon among us") If Oneechanbara was kept trashy, then ryuga gotoku should've been kept classy. Too bad I couldn't care less about this game anymore. Too little, too late imo. (I don't even have a wii.) If you liked No More Heroes, then you may like Oneechanbara. That's just too damn awesome. A lil' schoolgirl with a uppercut straight out of mortal mombat. I want to see oneechanbara turned into OVA , they should have spent money on that rather than this wii game. Quoted for truth, except replace wii game with movie. The movie should've been a porno starring Sana Yoshizaki. NSFW link. http://www.caribbeancom.com/moviepages/072506-213/index.html She looks like Aya in that link. That's the girl who wrote it?! Wow... I did some sleuthing on the net. It turns out that's just some random ass babe with big tits. She wasn't involved with that manga at all. In fact I think they actually yanked her pic from the internet & plastered her tits into their book without her consent.

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