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Xed- 05-11-2008
Searching for shine
I can't find Shine - for high time anywhere, someone knows where I can download it?

KIRBY 7- 05-11-2008

K7 SIN http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/dl.htm#fsr Go down to Flower, Sun, & Rain rips Most of those songs are from Shine. You can't purchase Shine as the album is out of print. Even then it was pretty half assed just like the official Water album. None of the Silver Case remixes & vocal tracks were in Shine. I was expecting to hear the FSR R-15 remix http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/FSR~theatermix.mp3 Only to find out that I had to take matters into my own hands & rip the music directly from the game disc instead. The game rips are better than the Shine cd, because I ripped all these songs that weren't present in either Water or Shine. I was hoping that GHM would release a 4 disc FSR ost to go along with the release of the DS FSR only to find out that the DS compositions suck ass. This is the link where the "Shine ~ For High Time" track listing was located at before ghm finally took the site down. https://freeville.serversecured.net/~grass8/cgi-bin/ghmshop/shoplist.html It sucks how GHM never made a full length album out of FSR. FSR's soundtrack is even better than both K7 & NMH combined, imo.

Spellbreaker- 08-10-2008

I managed to acquire a legitimate copy of Flower, Sun, and Rain for the PS2 so I could follow Topdrunkee's lead and rip the songs out of it. I arranged them in two sets. #1: "Shine ~For High Time~" http://www.sendspace.com/file/d07t63 A rip of all of the songs that make up the Shine album, properly tagged and ordered, based on the information included on that one GhM page. This includes a different arrangement of Deep shot of midnight sun than the one found on K7SIN. It also includes a modified version of Crescent < blue moon mix > that includes the intro the song sample on that website has (sort of). #2: "Flower, Sun, and Rain" http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NZJH89OM These are the rest of the songs from the game. They are properly tagged by artist (where applicable), and the track numbers come from their order in the game's sound files. The one track this collection does not include is the remix of The Silver Case that plays on the Sunken Ship. And I also am including in this post my game rip of Flower, Sun, and Rain: Owaranai Rakuen. http://www.sendspace.com/file/m5b1wy I was originally just going to make the file contain the tracks that FSR-DS had which the original didn't, but I thought some people might be interested to hear how different they made the songs. One thing though: I didn't include the DS versions of any of the songs Topdrunkee has already ripped from the PS2 game. No "DS Investigation" or "DS Without Chewing Gum Syrup" here, unfortunately. The good news is that a few of the DS songs are done using actual samples from the originals, so the DS's version of Syrup and the Silver Case remix sound a bit like the PS2 version (only shorter, in the case of the Silver Case remix). I think that the Silver Case remix, the Save Point FSR remix (which I call "Next Days" in the second zip file), and Final KATHARINE might be the only songs that have been shortened. It sucks how GHM never made a full length album out of FSR. FSR's soundtrack is even better than both K7 & NMH combined, imo. I agree. I think the music from Flower, Sun, and Rain is actually Masafumi Takada's best work ever. I hope that they might reconsider a repress of Shine if FSR-DS sells well.

Fulgor- 08-10-2008

I differ guys, I think Killer7 is Takada's best work, it had more memorable themes for me like Sweet Relief, Where angels plays, Sweet Blue Flag and the Colosseum theme. But FSR comes in second, although I should maybe play the game, that would make the soundtrack more memorable for me. NMH was lame, I didn't pick me up. The only oustanding tracks were the variations of the main theme and Holly summers theme.

KIRBY 7- 08-10-2008

That crescent remix is off the hook. It sounds like R&B music. What did you use to extract these tracks? I couldn't even find the Tokio Morishima remix. I differ guys, I think Killer7 is Takada's best work, it had more memorable themes for me like Sweet Relief, Where angels plays, Sweet Blue Flag and the Colosseum theme. But FSR comes in second, although I should maybe play the game, that would make the soundtrack more memorable for me. NMH was lame, I didn't pick me up. The only oustanding tracks were the variations of the main theme and Holly summers theme. Technically K7 may be Takada's best work, because he did the entire soundtrack to that game, & even Takada himself has said that was his fave ost. FSR's soundtrack was more of a joint effort between the guitarist Torn, Takada, & Mia Murano. (Mia doesn't have anything to do with the DS version though. They cut most of her songs out in that game. The remaining Mia songs were edited to cut out all the vocal parts.) I prefer FSR. Its music had more focus imo. K7 may have had better original pieces, (FSR's best imo are the SC remixes) but FSR had a more consistent atmosphere. That's one of the biggest problems about K7 for me. It's atmosphere was erratic at best. It didn't know whether it was horror, spy thriller, or crazy ass grindhouse film. K7 tried to be everything at once, and it shows in the music. I keep forgetting that most of the spanish guitar Alter ego songs were from K7, because they sound more like FSR to me. FSR was more laidback, with tunes that either fell into the classy category, or the upbeat category. Most of the upbeat tunes sounded as mysterious as the classy ones. FSR was one of the only games I played where vocal tracks actually enhanced the experience. (The F.S.R. theme by Mia Murano is actually narrating what goes on in the game.) I definitely think that you need to play FSR in order to fully "get" the music. IMO, Silver Case's ost isn't that great until you actually hear it in game. It must be the same case with FSR. Nah, even without the game. The music still sounds good. I did like NMH's ost at first, but when it comes down to it. It just doesn't have the range of K7 & FSR, or the airtight atmosphere of Silver Case. NMH was mostly dance music. I put it in the same league as the Streets of Rage osts. Good shit to dance to, but the music itself doesn't really inspire any you or anything. (It's not moody like SC & K7, nor mysterious like FSR.) I agree. I think the music from Flower, Sun, and Rain is actually Masafumi Takada's best work ever. I hope that they might reconsider a repress of Shine if FSR-DS sells well. I assume that you mean in Europe right? FSR ds sold like shit in Japan. It wasn't even critically acclaimed either like the PS2 version was.

Spellbreaker- 08-10-2008

But FSR comes in second, although I should maybe play the game, that would make the soundtrack more memorable for me. Maybe, but it could simply boil down to personal preference. I liked FSR's music the instant I heard it (from this site, actually), and knew I had to hear the rest. That's what drove me to the lengths I went to in order to obtain a copy of the PS2 game. (Someday I hope to mod my PS2 so I can actually play it, though...) That crescent remix is off the hook. It sounds like R&B music. What did you use to extract these tracks? I couldn't even find the Tokio Morishima remix. I used MFAudio to get the songs out of the PS2 game, and a program called VGMTrans to get the songs out of the DS game. For some odd reason, the Tokio Morishima song and the intro to Crescent aren't included with the other songs on the PS2 disc. Heck, I don't even know if the PS2 version of the game has Crescent's intro (the intro made the song for me). The Tokio Morishima song was extracted from the DS version, since VGMTrans arranges all the songs by name, and even shows the name of them. The intro for Crescent is actually the intro for the DS version, just appended to the PS2 version to make it sound more like the one on Shine. There are websites out there that explain how to use VGMTrans. I used some of them to rip FSR's music out, myself. FSR's soundtrack was more of a joint effort between the guitarist Torn, Takada, & Mia Murano. Actually, the liner notes for the Water album reveal that Torn isn't a guy, but a band made up by Shingo Yasumoto and Masafumi Takada. (At least, I think the other name mentioned was Shingo Yasumoto's; I only bothered to verify Masafumi Takada's at the time.) Of course, that makes it even more of a mystery why they would cut out all of the vocal parts out of the songs from FSR-DS, especially when they could've used samples for them, like they did with the KATHARINE songs and various others. I honestly don't know why they just didn't spring for one of the bigger-size DS cartridges and just make all of the songs reduced-quality sampled versions of the PS2 ones, instead of the mix between sample and MIDI they ended up being. FSR's soundtrack is the king of leitmotifs among Masafumi Takada soundtracks. Yes, even more than No More Heroes. In fact, I just discovered this this morning: You know the ending theme from FSR (which I call "Welcome Home")? Well, it quite obviously contains the leitmotifs from Welcome to Lospass and F.S.R. (both missing in the DS version), but just after the record skip noise, you can hear the 10-note leitmotif from The Silver Case. But what I just noticed this morning is that around there, you can also hear the song "Kusabi"! I assume that you mean in Europe right? FSR ds sold like shit in Japan. It wasn't even critically acclaimed either like the PS2 version was. Yeah, in Europe and (hopefully) in America when it gets released. I'm hoping that Suda 51 has said he wants to release FSR, SC, and Ward 25 over here just in case he does decide to make a new game in that world, he could worldwide-release it and nobody'd be (that) lost. Suda 51 has already said he wants his games to reach worldwide audiences from now on.

KIRBY 7- 08-10-2008

Is airport man a new song? It sounds sort of like the musicbox version of the FSR theme. Now the star shaped hotel theme. The song you hear when you first arrive to hotel fsr. The song sounds very unique. Sounds like some South Asian country. (Primely because it is. Lospass=Micronesia.) For some odd reason, the Tokio Morishima song and the intro to Crescent aren't included with the other songs on the PS2 disc. Heck, I don't even know if the PS2 version of the game has Crescent's intro (the intro made the song for me). Yeah the intro crescent notes are in the PS2 game. You hear it after Sue trips you. When she lures you to the roof of FSR. Actually, the liner notes for the Water album reveal that Torn isn't a guy, but a band made up by Shingo Yasumoto and Masafumi Takada. (At least, I think the other name mentioned was Shingo Yasumoto's; I only bothered to verify Masafumi Takada's at the time.) I've actually seen a torn webpage once, and the only videogame work they did was FSR. I had no idea that Torn was actually Takada. (No wonder why they had a similar style.) I was always under the impression that Torn was some underground jazz musician who I've never heard of. Of course, that makes it even more of a mystery why they would cut out all of the vocal parts out of the songs from FSR-DS, It's most likely licensing issues imo. It's seems that GHM didn't bother to pay Mia royalties for the DS port. Which is a dumb move. They should've shelled out the dough. Her songs are what made FSR's ost so unique. I wonder how different the DS port would've been had Suda 51 been in charge of the DS game. Mia Murano, the woman who sings the FSR theme, and is also the live action Toriko actress. Happens to be an actual actress in Japan. I even saw her in a couple of J-dramas myself. Though FSR is the first time I've ever heard her sing. To think prior to her involvement. FSR was originally going to use this song as the main theme. http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/HanaToTaiyouToAme.mp3 Which isn't bad per say, but it doesn't match the game as much as Mia's theme does. FSR's soundtrack is the king of leitmotifs among Masafumi Takada soundtracks. Yes, even more than No More Heroes. You'll could say that again. That's one of my favorite aspects of FSR's ost actually. I especially like how they utilized the vocal tracks. (It's really just the same lyrics that they play over & over again but to a different beat with a similar melody.) You know the ending theme from FSR (which I call "Welcome Home")? Well, it quite obviously contains the leitmotifs from Welcome to Lospass and F.S.R. (both missing in the DS version), but just after the record skip noise, you can hear the 10-note leitmotif from The Silver Case. But what I just noticed this morning is that around there, you can also hear the song "Kusabi"! Wow, I never noticed. Save for the FSR theme. That's easy to notic, because its the main hook of the song. Is this just the DS version or does this apply to the original version of the ending song as well? __________________________ BTW this is a reply to one of your other posts. The song "investigation" isn't from Silver Case. (The song that plays after Sumio is killed.) The song "Sousa" is the one that came from Silver Case. Which basically means investigation or operation. So in a sense FSR has two songs called investigation. The FSR original has its title written in English, and the Silver Case investigation (sousa) is written in kanji. The wedding theme is actually a remix of the tv tower theme in Silver Case. (I forget the name of the song.)

Spellbreaker- 08-11-2008

s airport man a new song? It sounds sort of like the musicbox version of the FSR theme. Now the star shaped hotel theme. The song you hear when you first arrive to hotel fsr. The song sounds very unique. Sounds like some South Asian country. (Primely because it is. Lospass=Micronesia.) "Airportman" is actually the song "Sleepy KATH" with the F.S.R. bits removed. You can hear Airportman in the background if you listen to Sleepy KATH closely. That's why I don't include Airportman in a list of songs new to FSR-DS. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Sleepy KATH the song that plays when you're diffusing the bombs in the last chapter? That's where Airportman plays, and that's what the "Katharine Points Guide" in the game calls those bomb-guys. And I always thought "Star-Shaped Hotel" was a really cool song. The FSR-DS game files call it "gamlan", but I don't know what that means. I got "Star-Shaped Hotel" from the FSR Guidebook, and that song plays all the time around the hotel, so it fit. You can also just barely hear it at the end of the song "One resort" and the beginning of the song "One island" on the Water album. As far as Torn goes, I always figured that since Takada seems to be primarily a piano man, Shingo was the one playing guitars in songs like F.S.R. and Nice middle's boogie (which is actually credited to Shingo here). It's most likely licensing issues imo. It's seems that GHM didn't bother to pay Mia royalties for the DS port. Which is a dumb move. They should've shelled out the dough. Her songs are what made FSR's ost so unique. I wonder how different the DS port would've been had Suda 51 been in charge of the DS game. Mia Murano, the woman who sings the FSR theme, and is also the live action Toriko actress. Happens to be an actual actress in Japan. I even saw her in a couple of J-dramas myself. Though FSR is the first time I've ever heard her sing. I have to agree. There's just something wrong with hearing the song that plays at the end of R-14 (in the theater), and not hearing Mia's singing. I was thinking that maybe they didn't want a song with Japanese lyrics that figured so much into the atmosphere of the game, since they were (probably) planning on having FSR-DS go international. They kept the "anata no tameni" poem in the DS game because they might be replacing that for the European version with an English poem. Notice that it seems to be kinda just "there" in the FSR-DS intro video song, as opposed to the way it fits in with the PS2 intro song. You'll could say that again. That's one of my favorite aspects of FSR's ost actually. I especially like how they utilized the vocal tracks. (It's really just the same lyrics that they play over & over again but to a different beat with a similar melody.) That's actually what I love about Masafumi Takada's work in general: his use of leitmotifs. Someday I want to collect all of the songs he's done (though that'll never happen). And yeah, they do tend to use the same parts of the song, but look at what they did for the Edo Save Point song ("Next Days"). The vocal parts of F.S.R. appear there in unusual orders, and even backwards, and they were even able to add the poem to the mix! Wow, I never noticed. Save for the FSR theme. That's easy to notic, because its the main hook of the song. Is this just the DS version or does this apply to the original version of the ending song as well? Hmm... I know for a fact that they're there in the PS2 version. I'm checking the DS version now. This song sounds so lonely without the F.S.R. and Welcome to Lospass leitmotifs in it. Anyway, while the song is playing, did you know that the FSR-DS version of the song that plays at the very end when they reveal the dozens of Sumios at the airport has a new intro, too? But that intro wasn't included in the version on the official Water album, so I didn't bother to mix it in with the regular song. It does sound weird when you're hearing it, though, after hearing the other one for so long. "What song is this? Oh, it's Final Mondo" or "What song is this? Oh! It's Crescent!" which was my actual reaction when I got to the point in FSR-DS where I had to fix Sue's mop. OK, so FSR-DS's ending theme finally got to that point, and I'm sad to say that both the Silver Case riff and the Kusabi riff are gone. Why would they bother leaving the other songs from the Silver Case in, but remove the leitmotifs from the ending? I have to say that the music is definitely sub-par from what I expect from GhM. I'd probably not be disappointed as much if I'd never heard the actual FSR songs, but since I have I feel massively let down. I actually didn't believe that the new intro song and the new Welcome to Lospass II song were composed by Masafumi Takada. They just didn't sound... right. But FSR-DS's credits mentions specifically that they both were (with Jun Fukuda on guitars). Maybe he didn't want them to remove the other songs, so he only "phoned them in". BTW this is a reply to one of your other posts. The song "investigation" isn't from Silver Case. (The song that plays after Sumio is killed.) The song "Sousa" is the one that came from Silver Case. Which basically means investigation or operation. So in a sense FSR has two songs called investigation. The FSR original has its title written in English, and the Silver Case investigation (sousa) is written in kanji. The wedding theme is actually a remix of the tv tower theme in Silver Case. (I forget the name of the song.) I know that there are two Investigation songs. There's one for Koshi that plays while he's running through the hotel but (at least, on the DS) stops once he leaves (which is a travesty, since his Investigation is my second favorite song among all of FSR), and then there's also the Investigation that plays for Sumio (the second time?) he has to chase down that guy on Marmaleba road. The guy with the costumes. I did not know that the wedding song was also from the Silver Case! I'll have to figure out the name of it and rename the track. Uh... I can't conclusively pinpoint it. Is it included on The Silver #01? If not, where in the actual game is it (I can figure it out that way)? I got as far as the telescopes in Lifecut, but that was a while ago. I was never happy with the track names "Wedding" or "Sadness". Sadness is your Lullaby Mix, but I can't really remember where it played. I seemed to vaguely recall it playing in the lady's room at the beginning of R-14. (But then, that might have just been the Chapter Song.) I'm also not happy with the name "Hotel Theater", and I think "Ride on a boat" sounds too ordinary, but the title comes from a great moment in the game. Also, do you think maybe the song called "Mr. Pirate" should be changed to something like "Prize Fight"? I think that sounds a bit better.

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