Sundance is believed to be the main antagonist of the story, or at least the nominal villain. (FSR,as with most Suda 51 games, doesn't really have a villain.) While his intentions are usually honourable, his methods are a bit suspect. The FSO party leader. He once controlled a nonprofit organization that was extremely conservative in their beliefs. It is assumed that the assassin,Uehara Kamui was sent to the TRO/CCO union 20+ years ago & slayed ten of the allied parties executives. The events that followed created a domino effect that escalated & matured into the "Silver Case". (It's later revealed that the Event 20+ years ago was committed by Fujiwara Kamui,a hired killer that Sundance used as his trump card. Fujiwara invaded the television tower where the VIP's of the TRO/CCO alliance gathered and tried to exterminate as many as he could. Tsuguro Kusabi shot Uehara Kamui &arrested him. The aftermath of this event was later to be privately known as the "Silver Case") At least that's what the urban myth says, Fujiwara (Formatto) Camui was actually killed during the assassination attempt,but the remaining VIP's killed each other to obtain his Silver eye. The deaths of the other vips were later added on to Fujiwara's death toll. Sundance's FSO wanted to defy the TRO/CCO's Camui Mass Professional plan. To keep this short let's just say that the FSO did not agree with the "shelter children" program. The FSO political party was dismantled before the events of the game "Silver Case" (1999) The former leader, Sundance was nowhere to be found. It turns out that he was actually chilling at Lospass resort during the 1999 Silver incident.I've also listed some details from the final scenario of the Silver Case at Tokio's bio
Tokio Morishima the true hero of the Silver Case. Although he pretty much did nothing but check his e-mail everyday , smoke & went out drinking. Kiyoshi Morikawa, who was quite intimate with Chizuru Hachizuka. (Daughter of the chief of the 24 ward.) Handed over his pocketbook that recorded the events of the Silver Case to Tokio Morishima before the crack down of CASE#5 Lifecut began. (Shortly after Morikawa was gunned down by Tsuguro Kusabi. Morikawa's,lover Chizuru was shot once in the heart & took another slug to the head from Sakura Natsume.) Tokio Morishima was given the pocket book,because it was thought that he could be trusted. (Tokio is a distant relative of Chizuru Hachizuka. Well more like brother & sister.) However it was an error on their part, since Tokio Morishima took the next plane out of Kyoka, and went on vacation. Depriving their father of the silver eye. Tokio is a journalist who was investigating the "Silver Case" Turns out that he's been hanging out at Lospass since the events of the "Silver Case" He will help you out immensely with a treasure trove of information, that is if you can find where the bloody hell he's hiding out at. I list Mr. Morishima as a cameo,because he only appears in one part of the game. His scene is an important one though. You could probably compare his appearance to that of Linda Vermilion from Killer 7. Except he's nowhere near as vague.Here's story details about the Case #3 (Which is actually the fourth level.) It contains background story about Sumio & this Case is directly related to Suda51's "Moonlight Syndrome"
Kill the past *spoilers* Silver Case ~ background story from CASE#3 PARADE Some links direct you to a .wmv file that further illustrates Sumio's background. Sumio came from a town called Mikmomura. Everybody from Mikmomura was under the pay roll of the Iregyura Yuki factory. Waste water from the factory greatly attributed to the rise of pollution within the area. Adults of Mikmomura demonstrated pro-*test*-('")s against the factory every week. The pro-*test*-('")s gradually became cruel, and disorderly. The chaotic nature of the pro-*test*-('")'s became to be known as the "Parade"I wish I could tell you more, but I'm saving all of that for when I update. I'm thinking of finally updating the site sometime this weekend. (It's been a 3 month long hiatus since I've worked on this site.)http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/silverparade.wmv referring to the congregation of pro-*test*-('")ing madmen. The "parade" attacked the manager of Mikumo 77. The manager's family tried to flee, but they and the house they resided in were nothing more than a husk of cast-off skin by the end of the night. The manager's daughter Riru, was the sole survivor of the family. Sumio grabbed Riru by the hand, and tried to slip out of the city. They were eventually caught by the "Parade". The adults of the "Parade" antagonized Riru & labeled her a witch. Sumio & all of whom who tried to protect Riru were punished for their transgressions. (Hiseki & Fyuki are Sumio's childhood friends. Riru the eldest of them all was a girl that he yearned for.) Hiseki's punishment, so as not to see the witch, eyes are crushed. Fyuki's punishment, so as not to call the witch, the mouth is sewn. So as not to hear the witch's voice, oil was poured into Sumio's ears. And, Riru is violated & raped to death by adults, she was only eight years old. Sumio held a grudgehttp://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/silversumiorevenge.wmv against all Iregyura Yuki, especially the ringleader and he had a grudge against the ominous Mikumo. 20 years later- During a case that involved investigating Mikmomura. Sumio executed the plan to manipulate the Iregyura Yuki to annihilate the city from his child hood. One by one the members of the Iregyura Yuki committed suicide by either blowing their selves apart with time bombs or fell to their deaths. The chairman of the Iregyura Yuki self detonatedhttp://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/silvermikumosumio.wmv the Snow Tower which resulted in taking out the entire village of Mikmomura along with it. With the Yuki conglomerate eliminated & the city burnt to ashes, Sumio Killed the past *spoilers end* . -------------------- Click here to see Kill the Past Silver Case source http://www8.atwiki.jp/storyteller/pages/388.html - Hiseki: Direct perpetrator of the Iregyura Snow mansion explosionhttp://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/silverhiseki.wmv STATUS:. His neck is hung and he committed suicide. - Fyuki: Direct perpetrator of the kidnapping of Iregyura Snow chairman. STATUS: He suicide bombed inside a chimney & plunged to his death.http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/silver/silverfyuki.swf His body was burnt to a crisp. All that remained was a diamond. -Yukimura, Riru: The manager of Mikumo 77's daughter. She was assaulted & lynched by the "Parade" and died in Mikmomura ..20 years ago... - Kodai, Sumio: Direct perpetrator of the kidnapping of the Iregyura Snow chairman. STATUS: Sumio was indirectly responsible for the genocide of an entire city. He was arrested after the destruction of Mikmomura & was stripped of his duty as a detective of the HMD. He tried to conceal the injury of his ear, but was eventually caught & detained when his conversation was leaked through lip reading.
1. http://www.d3.dion.ne.jp/~ishinabe/silver.htm The translation is in jap. i used translation through babelfish but it gave error. How did uyou managed to use this guide, do you get japanses?You only asked for a walkthrough. Not one translated in ENglish. (There are no English walk throughs for the game.)
I'd pay money for a translation of this game, but it seems like an ammount of work only comparable to Policenauts'.Policenauts doesn't have as much dialogue as Silver Case. SC feels like a digital novel. Especially when you're playing Tokio's Placebo reports. The first chapter in his game is just chilling. When you read e-mails from his friend Erica detailing about an interview she made with a woman named Ayame Shimohira, who met Uehara Kamui. We later find out that Ayame Shimohira has a higher level of consciousness than Kamui himself. Uehara Camui is actually her "servant" or something like that. I can't explain Shimohira's & Camui's relationship with each other. It's like they don't even live in this world or some shit. They just interact with it. They both get sent to jail at the end of the 1st official mission. Although Uehara Camui breaks out of the asylum again in the final episode.)
The character designs are beautiful... Sorry, I'm whore for things like this.Yeah the cast of Silver Case/Flower Sun & Rain is probably my second favorite world of characters after Persona. Don't get too attached to the characters though, because only four of them survive at the end of the game. (Five if you include the playable character. I choose not to though. Due to a narrative plot twist that occurs right before the game ends.)
A while ago I thought that learning Japanese only to play a game would be a stupid idea, but now, damn, the overwhelming number of cool stuff a few people are doing over there is seriously messing with my head.Damn I feel like spoilering the last chapter for you, although I probably already spoiled it many times in the forum, but I'll hold back for now. Since I didn't really understood what happened anyway.
I understand a few of the dialogue or at least I can read the katakana and hiragana (regardless of being able to translate it or not), but I get stuck at most of the kanji. Jeez, the best way to learn Japanese, is to start figuring out the most common kanji, and then all that is left is translate it (imo it's the easiest part, once you get the kanji). After that, the translation learning process is easy, just listen/read some subtitled movies.Even if you do understand the dialogue you'll still get lost, because much of what's being said is abstract & metaphorical. (Typically when we translate texts from Japanese/Chinese/Korean to English. We usually end up with broken sentences that read literally rather than the originally intended meaning.) BTW pay close attention to Chap.3 or 4. (I don't remember.) It's the case where the entire level is in Black & white. That's Sumio's case that directly relates to Moonlight Syndrome. He gets arrested at the end of the level. His story than continues on in the Silver Case novel chronicling around Sakura Natsume. Sumio's replacement. From there Sumio's story continues in Suda 51's "Flower, Sun & Rain". Finally we get to see the la-*test*-('") update of Sumio's life during the Digital Man case in Silver Case 25 Ward. Returning characters from FSR include, Koshimizu Yoshimitsu, & Toriko Kusabi.
I think, maybe some sort of alphanumerical code, like A-1 B-2, for example.Yeah one of the codes refers to Kamui, I think. This code for example is almost always displayed whenever the Silver Case game is advertised.
KILL THE PAST CADE B2B1 DDBB D4B6 KILL THE LIFE
A few notable things I've got to say - the atmosphere is akin to a horror movie, but with the razor-sharp touch of a great psycho-thriller (TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE TASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTETASUKETTE).LOL, I actually referenced that exact scene in that Killer 7 fan game that I was working on. Except in my version she says
HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP E E E E E E E E E E L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L .................................................................................Note: In the game I was working on. There were suppose to be spaces between the letters E & L. The letters would eventually change from Help to Hell. The longer you took to read the message.
The dynamic user interface is awesome. The screen breaks its structure very often to a great effect. I'm pretty much at the edge of my seat anticipating what is gonna come next.Yup, that's why I'm irritated with Suda 51. For keeping his true writing prowess hidden from the public. I want more people to discover how classy & mature Suda's writing style actually is. Killer 7 at it's best would only make a cool comic book. Silver Case at it's finest would be a full length novel. (In fact one of the chapters in the original Silver Case game actually was released as a novel. I never read it, but it takes place after Case 4 & before the final chapter. Not that I'd be able to read the novel anyway. It's in Japanese.) It's too bad that Suda keeps most of his mature work in Japan. Whereas his satirical pieces such as NMH & K7 are open world wide to the public. (They're good & all. I even like NMH. I just wish that Suda would punch everybody in the face with his darker, more mature "Silver Case" material. Or his more original approach to story telling in games with his FSR.) BTW FSR isn't anywhere near as dark as Silver Case. FSR does still have that sense of mystique, intrigue, sense of dread & aura of suspense that SC has though. It just takes a more Mulholland Drive approach to suspense. In the sense that the game makes you feel like you're walking straight into a wall without realizing it. Due to the seemingly light & serene atmosphere of both MD & FSR. Hell Ed Macalister's robotic smile reminds moi of that same creepy smile that the old couple does in MD. FSR is the one game from Suda that feels almost exactly like a David Lynch film. (Whereas the rest of his games have mannerisms like a Lynchian flick. You'd almost swear that FSR would be the game Lynch would make if he ever made a video game.)
I'm now seriously reconsidering my K7 comic project - I think I'm gonna try doing the same but in a visual interactive novel form...Ah, but I love what you currently have going on with your project. You actually emulated the erratic vibe of Killer 7 to a tee. (Judging by some of those dialogue scans that you posted in your Hik 7 comic thread. The line Kaede said had I cracking up.) Which is something that I'm still struggling with. I prefer to have a consistent ambiance & vibe permeating through the whole production. (Which is something Killer 7 doesn't have. K7's atmosphere is completely random.) As a result of that. The K7 game that I was working on felt more like a Silver Case game than it did K7. (Which is why my K7 SINdrome gameplay trailer looked all gloomy, eerie, scary & shit. To the point that I transferred all of that K7 sindrome work to Daydream Cafe/Mourning Symphony instead.)
But again, those dynamic interface tricks are gonna be hard to pull off for an inexperienced ignorant like myself using pre-made devkits.You can somewhat emulate the same visual tricks used in Silver Case with Rpg maker, but it's going to take a shit load of pictures to do so. I had one that said
What I did was create my own visual techniques in place of the ones used by SC. Although it's all moot, since I'm no longer working on the K7 game. (Way too much writing, plus everybody was expecting some kind of "Final Fantasy" style K7 prequel out of me. When in reality all I wanted to do was expand on the dichotomy between the spiritual divine & information warfare concepts from K7 & SC. ) I have a shit load of humourous but badass dialogue in the works for Daydream Cafe though. (I want to rename it to Mourning Symphony, but the problem is that I already have the Daydream Cafe title screen made. The Daydream title screen looks way too classy to just throw away.)ILLogical ILLogical MenStraShuN ILLogical PERceptShUN ILLogical DiSScusShUN ILLogical KastrayShunUnWut Iz DA KwestShun?
shit. I'm at a loss here on how to correctly get decent music files out of the .seq files. Using pgconv I can only get midi files created from the fucking windows synthesizer, which sound awful, of course. Must find a way to get a program that actually accesses both the individual pieces of sound and the .seq's from the game to organize everything into a decent track.I can't help you with ripping the music. SInce I'm still trying to figure that out myself. (The only technique that I use to get the music, is to record the song using a sound recorded while the game is being played. The quality is ass though.) Be sure to post hem here whenever you do rip the songs though. I love the soundtrack to Silver Case. Silver Case's soundtrack kinda reminds moi of a hybrid between Persona's old school ost's & the ost of the original Deus Ex.
Be sure to post hem here whenever you do rip the songs though. I love the soundtrack to Silver Case. Silver Case's soundtrack kinda reminds moi of a hybrid between Persona's old school ost's & the ost of the original Deus Ex.I sense good news for you. After doing a bit of requesting at the gh.ffshrine forums, looks like someone was (finally) kind enough to find us: The Silver #01 Structure He/She said that the other two I requested #02 Destructor and #03 Parade were so far nowhere to be found. I'm just waiting for the upload. By the looks of it, between today and tomorrow. Or maybe it's just my anticipation talking.
If you ever get around it Topdrunkee, uploading some rips of Silver Case would awesome. Masafumi Takada did do the soundtrack for it, correct? If so....i my ears definitely need to hear itI already made some a long time ago, http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/dl.htm#silver but they have poor sound quality. If I were you I'd wait for the remixes. While the music in Silver Case had some pretty kick ass melodies. The cuts used in game sound like they were composed from a cheap ass keyboard. (GHM only had 4 employees at the time they made SC.) The remixes sound much better. (Same melodies, better use of instruments & composition.) Here's three Silver Case remixes that were used in Flower, Sun, & Rain. Sousa (Investigation) FSR remix http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/SousaFSRmix.mp3 This the original version of Sousa that was used in SC. http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/SC-SOUSA.mp3 Notice how much smoother Sousa sounds in the FSR remix when compared to the original. Silver Case (Jazzy lounge mix) http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/silvercaseFSRmix.mp3 The original Silver Case song from the SC intro http://killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/silver/scintro.swf One of the only songs from the original that didn't have low sound quality. (The Silver Case theme is probably one of the best compositions that Masafumi has made.) Shelter policy http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/FSR~shelterpolicy.mp3 A remix of Tokio Morishima's song was also used in Flower, Sun, & Rain, but I can't find it anywhere in the FSR game disc. This is what the original Morishima song sounded like. http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/SC-TokioMorishima.mp3 (It's very bouncy & girly sounding. Which is ironic considering that Morishima is a manly man who smokes 24/7 & has a pet turtle.) Masafumi makes the OST for every GHM game. I think he even made the ost for Moonlight Syndrome which was the last game Suda worked on before he formed GHM. http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/dl.htm#moon (I'm not sure, but the music does sound like his style.) My favorite soundtrack from Masafumi is FSR. (Followed by Killer 7.) For some reason only his Kill the past themed osts (Including No More Heroes) catch my ear drums. Michigan's ost was generic survival horror shit, and I just couldn't get into God Hand's music. (As funny as it was.) My favorite songs by Masafumi are the F.S.R. theme song (There's more than one version, so I'll list them all.) Intro version http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/FSRintromix.mp3 Full version http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/FSR-21%20F.S.R.mp3 R-15 mix http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/FSR~theatermix.mp3 Save point remix http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/FSRremix.mp3 & the Moonlight Syndrome theme song http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/Moonlight%20Syndrome.mp3 Unfortunately I can't find the full version of this song anywhere. (It's not hidden anywhere in the game disc.) I know there's a full version of the MS theme some where, because it's used as BGM in this MS preview trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXZnWF4Zivs EDIT: I can't believe I forgot about Without Chewing Gum Syrup http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/FSR~WithoutChewingGumSyrup.mp3 Deepshot of Midnight Sun http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/FSR~DeepShotOfMidnightSun.mp3 & Investigation http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/FSR~Investigation.mp3 from FSR