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KIRBY 7- 11-03-2005
(UPDATED) Linda Vermilion's allegiance
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/topdrunkee/killer7/killerchart.jpg http://www.sitesled.com/members/killer7/file7/linda.html We know she's employed by the U.S.,because she sniped Mills as he was about to tell Garcian the truth about the Killer 7. Allowing Garcian to learn about his true identity would jeopardize the U.S.A.'s position in the information war with Japan. The Killer 7 as a whole are nothing more than a killing machine for the U.S. A marionette that can be controlled at will,all you need to do is pull the right strings. In the case of the Killer 7,it was Garcian Smith's Bushido like loyalty to a man that he believed to be his mentor,Harman Smith. As Emir Parkreiner he becomes a liability,because he now has a mind of his own,and is free from the subtle control of the government,and the guilt of his past sins,the Union Hotel murders. The incident that traumatized Garcian into thinking that he was part of an elite assassin syndicate known as the Killer 7. However Ms. Vermilion contradicts the assassination of Mills by telling Garcian to seek out the truth,and find the answers. To decipher how the system works. (The true nature of the United States democracy.) She appears to be quite disgusted with Mills. In her eyes he was nothing more than a blind patriot,a slave who did whatever the government told him to do. The only hints at her affiliation are "I'm a protector of the country." "Mills was a slave. Kissed up to the government. The governments interest was his interest." "It's making a move for the interest of the country an assassin's job too." She only says country,but never specifies which country. Whenever she mentions the government,Linda says it with a bit of disdain. Of course that could mean that she's loyal to her country,but not the government ,but IMO I still feel that when she utters "country" she's actually referring to Japan. Why else would she say this last part if she were loyal to the U.S.A. "See,you already know. It's your last job. Use your eyes to decipher how the system works, and then seek the real enemies." Throughout the game the Japanese with the exception of Kasai,Hiro from Japan's Liberal party (Whom happen to be pushing for an American alliance anyway.) were always pitted as your adversaries due to political disagreements. Here Ms. Vermilion is telling you to seek out the real enemies implying that Kenjiro,Matsuoka AKA "Matsuken" is not the real target. Speaking of Matsuken,just before Chris Mills was shot he relayed information about how Matsuken held the control & loyalty of 10 million secret Japanese members scattered across the globe. The term "Japanese members" doesn't exactly mean that they're actually Japanese. It refers to individuals who were brought up under Japanese ideals & doctrine either naturally or through subliminal messages. The biggest culprit being the Coburn Elementary Institute. Since Elementary schools are attended by mostly kids & young teens they have the easiest minds to influence,therefore it would be a cinch to implant thoughts into their brains of who to vote on. (Schools have the most ballot booths.) The irony of Coburn is that the building is one of the U.S.A.'s most important factors in deciding on who becomes the next president,but at the same time it's also secretly used as a breeding ground by the Japanese government to train kids utilizing Japanese wartime WW II education methods into becoming assassins,key political figures,etc. for the Japanese goverment to infiltrate the U.S.A. under the guise as American democrats. Garcian Smith was one of the individuals that was educated at Coburn Elementary,which could explain his Japanese mannerisms. When I think of an image of someone in Killer 7 other than Emir Parkreiner who could've possibly underwent the same education process,my most likely candidate would be Linda Vermilion. The big difference between her & Emir is that she appears to be 100% loyal to her superiors. For example Linda killing Mills,because she was hired by the U.S. government to kill him if Mills ever did something that would sabatoge the whole operation like telling Garcian the truth. Although she indirectly tells Garcian to seek the truth anyway which would be going against the U.S.A.s wishes,but helps slow down the fate of Japan. This pretty much makes Chris Mills death meaningless,but that was the point that the game was trying to get across. That Mills was a mere pawn,that made a stupid move. Whereas Emir shows no indication of who he's loyal to, (My guess would be the money,who ever pays him the most.) because he doesn't have any dialogue in the one level where you control Emir. It's hard to tell which country Emir would side with. Depends on which country makes him more angry,and who he felt wronged him the most. If he truly were crazy he would choose to take both North America & Japan out,which would most likely lead to a great depression. Considering that they're the two largest economies in the world. Or Germany could probably go on ahead,and take in the remains. (Germany is the 3rd largest economy in the world.) Note: In Hand in Killer 7,Japan's government is destroyed for good. It's unknown what really happened to Matsuken since it just says that Emir met him at Battleship Island,but doesn't explicitly say that Emir kills him. Why do I assume that Linda Vermilion must've been an attendant of Coburn elementary? For starters something about her just doesn't feel right. She comes off as a bit unorthodox & has a foreign look, though I do believe that she is a naturalized American. Linda gives me the impression that she's suppose to embody or represent what an undercover Japanese member looks & feels like. An individual that appears to be working for the U.S. government's interest,but in reality is actually a Japanese double agent,or a mole. They have enough legitamacy to pass as proud upstanding Americans yet at the same time there's an aura about them that feels a bit distant as if they have a secret agenda. I marked Linda as being part of the U.S. Opposition Party,not because I think she's part of the organization,but because if she truly is one of the 10 million secret Japanese members that would mean that she's also alligned with Matsuken which in turn would imply that she is secretly allied with Kun Lan. Even with all that said there's still a possibility that Linda Vermilion is just a true American patriot,and just wants what's best for her country. To be free from the corruption,to live in the true land of the free. (That's a pretty moot point though,since all countries are corrupt one way or the other. Plus Linda Vermilion would become an unemployed bum without the behind the scenes political chaos,because there would be no need of assassins any more. Or at least very few high commisioned hits. Then again being a very rather attractive female and all. I'm pretty sure she could empower men for their money with her looks in exchange for her body. I highly doubt it though.) Written by Topdrunkee Thy ILLnifique 11/04/05

Akura- 11-22-2005

Wow... just wow, dude. I haven't checked the SINdicate for ages, but in case you haven't, have you thought about throwing this up on your site? It's really insightful. Lemme guess... you really like Linda, right?

KIRBY 7- 11-29-2005

have you thought about throwing this up on your site? It's really insightful. Actually I already have. All File 7 files can be found at the File 7 section of the website. I still need to write up the Sphere of Influence article (The text that will acompany the Relationship chart.) & a couple of others for Emir Parkreiner,Kenjiro Matsuoka & Edo Macalister from Flower,Sun & Rain. (The bellhop at the Union Hotel.) I'm also planning to write files for Kun Lan,Harman,Samantha,Ulmeyda,Fukushima,Handsome Men,Dan & Curtis. Lemme guess... you really like Linda, right? Nah,I'm attracted to Ada Wong's RE 4 look for some reason. Don't know why since I thought she was ass ugly in RE 2. Guess it's because she's looks more east asian now. My justification for dedicating a file to Linda Vermilion is... Linda was only in the game for 3 or somethin' minutes. Having as much charisma & standing out as much as Linda does,you just know she has a bigger role in Killer7 than what can be told at face value. As for I the ILLnificent liking her can't say that I have a libido,crush or a lust for her,Linda's hot though. (I'm a typical dog,I dig women with big ( * Y * ) & a big ass,Linda has neither. I'm more of a Taki,Lust from Full Metal Alchemist or a Motoko Kusanagi fan.) Linda Vermilion has a striking resemblance to an assassin named Mary in Vermilion Pleasure Night's http://www.sitesled.com/members/killer7/file7/quickgirl.html Quickgirl. Which is also feat. in the File 7 section. However the article isn't up yet. Quickgirl shares a lot in common with Killer 7. One chick even has the ability to scan an area to see where all her oponents are much like Garcian Smith & the Heaven Smiles. Judging from Linda's demeanor,weapon,appearance & her surname I have reason to believe that "Quickgirl" influencecd Killer 7 a lil bit. (We never see Linda's actual weapon,but it's easy to tell that she used a customized rifle with a sniper scope.)

Fredrick2003- 07-28-2006

That was a nicely written theory. Those pictures we're really cool to, who made those?

KIRBY 7- 08-05-2006

The gamespy Linda file has better writing than the post I have here. (I never bother to update the forum post.) Those photos are of Meiko Kaji playing the role as Lady Convict Scorpion. IMO Linda Vermilion's likeness was based off the Lady Scorpion. So I made some pics using Paintshop pro. (Can't make anymore cool pics like that though,because my former pc broke down.)

Kitano Smith- 09-24-2007

There's also the fact that Mills just -happened- to be shot when he was about to spill the beans about "Garcian and Harman 30 years ago". But that doesn't mean he was shot because of it. Maybe it was just an unfortunate "coincidence"- to serve the purpose of the game drama. Besides, Samantha had already been killed before he met Mills, so the US Government's control over the Killer7 was already starting to collapse before then thanks to some outside interference. In my opinion, some other group or person was already destroying the Killer7 illusion and Mills' assassination was a part of it. Regardless of Mills wanting to come clean with Garcian or not. I'm excluding Jaco from this - Linda Vermillion wasn't part of the original game plan either, I think.

Kitano Smith- 09-29-2007

I think I've reached an "eureka" moment, which is why I've made another post. Okay, why did Linda kill Mills and then asked Garcian to seek out the answers for himself? In my opinion, even if Linda knew what Mills was about to tell Garcian, she didn't want garcian to know it from Mills. She wanted Garcian to see the truth by himself, with his own eyes. She's speaking to you now. The player. If not, Garcian would still be fed information from Mills, like a dog, so to speak. Even if it that information is the truth. In other words, Linda Vermillion wants Garcian to be released from the Government, and the player from the game's linearity. Mills info about Garcian and Harman 30 years ago, could be another pack of lies, or not. It doesn't matter. This is not how things are supposed to happen if Garcian is to be free (and of course, stop being the Killer7). And by "free" I don't really mean free. Because in the end you can only fuck one of the countries, not both. Linda is confident you'll make the choice that is advantageous to her country. Your choice will be this: destroy the other country. In this context, Linda Vermillion's allegiance is to either country. She doesn't specify which country because she doesn't have to. Emir already knows. Which leads me to what I really want to say: You see, you decide one of the game's outcomes, and you by doing so, also decide Linda vermillion's allegiance. Your hand is no longer guided by the game. Starting from this moment, you, the player, are already an active part of the plot itself. Linda Vermillion is putting everything, even her allegiance, in the player's hands. The outcome of the game's events is already decided starting from now. This is what i believe, really. Linda Vermillion does have an allegiance but this depends on your final decision. What did Linda Vermillion made you think? To me, Linda is already laying the path for the player. She doesn't give any information to you (the player and Emir) per se. She's making you fill the blanks, even in her own speech. In which country do you want Linda to be sided with? The answer is only yours. Did you want her to be sided with Japan? Then let Matsuken live. Did you want her to be sided with the US? Kill Matsuken. The game doesn't have two endings. It has one. You can do the reverse thought process, of course: Let Matsuken live? Then Linda's allegiance is Japan. Kill him? Then Linda's allegiance is the US. My logic behind this is that she's so confident in herself and her love for her country, that she's also sure she's making the right decision to tell you to seek the truth. She's confident that whatever decision you make at the end, her country will be "protected" and the threatening country will be destroyed. In other words, she's confident on the decision you'll make. You will make the right decision. I don't think someone like Linda would be so reckless to risk her country to be destroyed by what she's doing. Her actions are perfectly calculated. So, she doesn't have a country in that point in the game. You decide what she meant by "protector of the country" in "Lion". I'm sure I repeated myself a lot, but it's just that I think this is crucial and needs to be given a thought. To make things more neutral for you to make your decision, she doesn't even look Japanese or American. She talks with a French accent (she's struggling with her inability to NOT roll her "r"s - if you ever heard Monica Belluci speak English you know what I'm talking about), and her face doesn't look Japanese or American. Her clothing doesn't give anything away either. She's ambiguous. In everything she does, says and wears. If she were a number, she would be 0. Until you add it something. In that case, she would be "1". Or better yet, she's perfectly clear if you stick "Japan" on her. She's perfectly clear if you stick "United States of America" on her. Young Harman Smith's function in the game is to expose the player to the facts (The Past). And Linda's purpose is to not inform the player while informing the in-game character Garcian/Emir. She is informing him. You just choose the context of the information (which will lead to The Future). Something you haven't been exposed to until now. Garcian/Emir knows perfectly well what she's talking about, but you the player, will decide and find out what "that" is later. Until now, you've been fed info, info, and more info. Do this, do that, go here, etc. It's time to wake up. It was all designed long ago, so that it would lead to this outcome. Emir's waking up was designed too. The Killer7 was designed to fail after it accomplished its purpose. Mills was designed to die after his purpose was accomplished. When Mills started spilling the beans, that was the signal that triggered the end of his usefulness. Mills was starting to talk personally, but that talk is none of his business. Of course he was a slave. He didn't know the whole picture, just followed orders. Linda has a higher degree of understanding of the whole picture. Probably the highest. The problem with the game or the player, is that when Linda Vermillion says "I'm a protector of the country" your mind will probably freeze and isolate that from what comes next, because you're trying to link it with what came before. This is because the game hasn't offered you any decision to make yet. So, you think the game is still following a linear path. The game's path is already supposed to be under deliberation, in your mind. I don't think you can write down what Linda Vermillion said until you decide the end of the game. That decision is important and is the final piece of the puzzle (the big picture). Now, what that design was and who designed it, I don't know.

KIRBY 7- 10-08-2007

Okay, why did Linda kill Mills and then asked Garcian to seek out the answers for himself? In my opinion, even if Linda knew what Mills was about to tell Garcian, she didn't want garcian to know it from Mills. She wanted Garcian to see the truth by himself, with his own eyes. She's speaking to you now. The player. If not, Garcian would still be fed information from Mills, like a dog, so to speak. Even if it that information is the truth. In other words, Linda Vermillion wants Garcian to be released from the Government, and the player from the game's linearity. In this context, Linda Vermillion's allegiance is to either country. She doesn't specify which country because she doesn't have to. Emir already knows. You see, you decide one of the game's outcomes, and you by doing so, also decide Linda vermillion's allegiance. Your hand is no longer guided by the game. The problem with the game or the player, is that when Linda Vermillion says "I'm a protector of the country" your mind will probably freeze and isolate that from what comes next, because you're trying to link it with what came before. This is because the game hasn't offered you any decision to make yet. So, you think the game is still following a linear path. The game's path is already supposed to be under deliberation, in your mind. I can concede to that. It makes the plot more fluid. So you're saying that Smile 2 & Lion are like a "choose your own adventure book" Rather than the linear line that I've always saw. I never thought of that, but what you said does make perfect sense. So it's acceptable IMO. To make things more neutral for you to make your decision, she doesn't even look Japanese or American. She talks with a French accent (she's struggling with her inability to NOT roll her "r"s - if you ever heard Monica Belluci speak English you know what I'm talking about), and her face doesn't look Japanese or American. Her clothing doesn't give anything away either. She's ambiguous. In everything she does, says and wears. Maybe she's Quebecois,(Canadian/French) I'd agree with all of that since she is indeed ambiguous. Until you get to the clothing. Plus Linda's surname. (Or in this case codename.) The following is solely based off of late night Japanese tv subculture, so it's prolly not as relevant. Although they do seem to connect since K7 references a lot of real world politics. So I assume that K7 also does the same with real world entertainment. Her look seems to be modeled after the japanese manga/movie character Convict Scorpion. http://www.sarudama.com/japanese_movies/grudgesong.shtml http://www.sarudama.com/japanese_movies/beaststable.shtml Linda wears almost the same exact get up & colour scheme. There was also a show in Japan that parodied the convict scorpion archetype called Vermilion Pleasure Night. VPN had a short skit called Quickgirl. forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=24" target="_blank">http://killer7.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=24 (I wrote that thread back when Quickgirl was only available in Japan.) A skit about 4 hit women who are assigned to kill each other. Spy vs Spy style. They each have their own special abilities. Two of them seem to be superhuman. (Lina & Mary. They both unexpectingly die though. Like the Killer 7.) K7 seems to borrow a lot from Quickgirl. The music, the fragmented directing style, Lina's ability to scan her surroundings for concealed weapons. (Similar to Garcian's abilty to scan for Smiles.) Most of all the inclusion of Mary, who's a picture perfect reincarnation of the Convict Scorpion. When you put that all together it seems that Linda Vermillion was either based off of the Convict Scorpion due to a resemblance in appearance or she was modeled after "Vermilion" Pleasure Night's, Mary. I tend to think that Linda was based off of both. Due to how similar in style that Quickgirl was to K7. All of that is what led I to believe that she's covertly one of the "secret japanese members" that Mills talked about before he was killed. While she doesn't look japanese in the traditional sense she does appear to be a national. (It's not uncommon to see people who look like her in Japan. Although I do admit that Japanese outside of Japan tend to look drastically different. Most of the Japanese that I see here in Washington all tend to look Korean instead.) Of course American's can also look like Linda so it's a two way street. (I'm considered foreign to both Japanese & Americans. Despite the fact that I'm an American with a japanese name, like Linda I have a culturally ambiguous appearance.) It's her resemblance to japanese movie icons that makes me think otherwise. All in all. I tend to prefer your theory more since it revolves around the logic of events that exist within the game. Rather than pre existing knowledge of japanese tv shows. I don't think you can write down what Linda Vermillion said until you decide the end of the game. That decision is important and is the final piece of the puzzle (the big picture). Now, what that design was and who designed it, I don't know. IMO we're probably never meant to know what the big picture was since the event we saw only chronicled around USA & Japan. (Which was also indirectly started by both the Eastern threat who fired the nukes at Japan, & the foreign entity that Jean Depaul worked for. Who were trying to sabotage the peace talks between japan & the Usa. IMO what we saw seems to only be a piece of the bigger picture. I doubt that anybody in the game was privy to the entire image of the world. Linda may have been the highest in the food chain (out of the human characters in K7.), but if she were. She was prolly only aware of the outcome between U.S & Japan. I always saw her as a mere gun for hire rather than an influential "architect". (politician) As for who designed the final geo political formation of the world's political powers. Who else, it was THE PATRIOTS. Or at least it would've been had this been MGS, lol.

Kitano Smith- 12-19-2007

This is from Female Convict Scorpion Jailhouse 41. It's Scorpion chasing and killing that fucking cop. After observing him from the overpass, stabs him in his car, chases him again on the overpass and finally delivers the fatality: I thought this overpass scene may have probably inspired Killer7's meeting spot.

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