Who kills Harman and Kun Lan and why did Garacian kill K7? The following is just a reply I wrote to an inquiring mind at youtube.
I don't say anything new at all. I'm just curious if anybody can fill in the blanks or holes that I may have left out. Or add in some new insight that I may have never seen before.
(Kitano was hella good at that, lol. WHich is why I quote him a lot.)
FYI I only respoind to inbox messages, because the 500 word limit in youtube comments drive me fucking insane.
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Be prepared for a long ass mothafuckng answer. Most of which would probably confuse you more. If anything.
The Harman/Kun Lan death scene is metaphorical. Most scenes in Killer7 do not have answers in a literal sense. They are meant to be parables where you derive meaning from them based off of your own mental falcuties & philosophical doctrine that you grew up with.
What they mean or say is up to you.
I however believe that the tommy gun scene represent parts of Emir killing off his past.
Since Harman & Kun basically serve as mental blocks that protect him from the truth.
(Which is why they are locked up in the forbidden room.)
IMO, Emir is finally free from his mental indoctrination once you see the dead body of the paraplegic harman smith lying dead on the ground during the final mission.
(Iwazaru & Kun Lan seemed to also be fragments of his past that he needed to kill off from his mind in order to be free from his mind control.)
Judging from what I've seen in Suda51's Silver Case & Flower, Sun, & Rain.
The Harman & Kun Lan who we see in K7 seem to be projections from either the mind, or a presentation of conflicting ideals.
It should be noted that Kun Lan is identified as an old man contained inside an insane asylum during an excerpt from the Jaco Checkbox reports in Hand in Killer 7.
The Kun Lan during the game seems to merely be a manifestation or a thoughtform residue that was created through his lower consciousness.
Or for a more accurate interpretation that Kitano Smith has relayed to me earlier back.
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Harman Smith's existence is left vague. The game & Hand in Killer 7 does not give you enough clues to define who Harman Smith actually is.
Harman is most likely a mental trigger that is used to block Garcian Smith away from his reality.
There was once a Harman Smith who served as Garcian's mentor.
However most of the Harman Smiths you see in the game may either be hallucinations or government shills propagated for the intent of furthering the lie that Garcian lived.
He is not part of Killer 7, He is also not Garcian. Emir Parkreiner isn't even his real name. Emir is a political pawn that was originally trained to serve Japanese political interests.
He was taken in by the American government after Emir committed the union hotel murders. That's around the time when Emir was taken in by a man who claims to be Harman Smith.
(The young Harman.)
The Young Harman claims to be an agent of the government.
Why did Garcian kill the Smiths? Who knows, & who cares.
It doesn't matter. He's a trained killer who does what he is trained to do. It's not even certain that those whom he killed are even the real Killer 7 in the first place.
Judging from what Y. Harman said. The term "Killer 7" seems to be a cover story that the American government created in order to cover up the incident.
However Hand in Killer 7 contradicts this. As hik7 makes it clear that the Killer 7 do in fact exist, and they are being utilized as the king piece that enacts the final decision that is to be made during some orchestrated political conflict.
Note: Everybody in the game is being manipulated by unseen forces into coercing the Killer 7 into a "reality" that is not of their own volition.
That "reality" is never specified, but judging from the events of the game. It seems to be the decision of who will receive final retribution.
Japan or the U.S.
FYI the term Kill the Past is was originally coined in the games Moonlight Syndrome & Silver Case.
The point that I'm trying to make is that Killer 7 is basically painting the portrait of a world that operates through mass compartmentalization.
A system that is needed in order to operate the planet on a false sense of logic. A logic derived from improper means
The thing is. It's pretty hard to describe what is actually going on in Killer 7. Without delving into what goes on in Silver Case (The main Kill the Past universe),& Flower Suna & Rain. (The manufactured reality of Kill the Past.) Killer 7 itself seems to be an alternate take on the Silver Case timeline.
(Moonlight Syndrome, Silver Case, Silver Case 25 Ward, & Flower Sun & Rain all share the same timeline.)
Mithra the god of contracts from Moonlight Syndrome even makes an appearance during Killer 7.
Mithra as he appears in Moonlight Syndrome
http://www.killer7.3dactionplanet.gamespy.com/mitrapuro.jpg
Mithra as he appears in Killer 7
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/topdrunkee/killer7/Mitthrak7.jpg
On one final note.
Think about the mass confusion that we have in our world today.
From topics such as the spiritual, paranormal, secret societies, cover ups, & what not.
The confusion that we have in real life is a reflection of the confusion that Killer 7 is trying to imitate by showing to the gamer how confusing a truth could get if it is tampered solely for political maneuvering.
There's hella shit that I would like to expand on about Killer 7, but can't be surmised with a single post. Which is why I run a K7 fansite. Even then I still have a hard time trying to get it all down in written form, because it's an ass load of information to process.
Most of which happen to be improper data, or red herrings.
However the red herrings are needed in order to comprehend how Garcian's reality remained hidden away from him throughout the duration of the game.
Or at least was hidden from him until he obtained sight through his metaphorical third eye. This is important, because this is when Garcian awoken spiritually to the fabrications that surrounded his everyday life.
In essence this is when he began to start using his eyes & ears to define truth through the course of actions. Rather than being told & obediently believe what he was told as truth.
One of the reasons why I don't really like to talk about K7 much these days. Is that often times I find that it replicates real life a lil' to much for my liking.
(In the sense of how fabricated our base of knowledge actually is.)
ferlanga- 05-08-2008
Why did Garcian kill the Smiths?
Im a bit rusty (havent played K7 in a long time) so this maybe is innacuratte, but I think Emir was basically the eastern version of the Smith syndicate (Hitman that works for the government), and he was sent to eliminite them, but I guess he failed and the USA government took control of him, becoming a tool.
I forgot how he managed to revive after he suicided on the roof (young harman took him?)
KIRBY 7- 05-18-2008
Im a bit rusty (havent played K7 in a long time) so this maybe is innacuratte, but I think Emir was basically the eastern version of the Smith syndicate (Hitman that works for the government), and he was sent to eliminite them, but I guess he failed and the USA government took control of him, becoming a tool.
Maybe, may not. As I said
scene is metaphorical. Most scenes in Killer7 do not have answers in a literal sense. They are meant to be parables where you derive meaning from them based off of your own mental falcuties & philosophical doctrine that you grew up with.
What they mean or say is up to you.
It doesn't really matter why Garcian killed the K7. If it did then the game would've provided enough hints as to why he did it.
(As far as I recall. The game doesn't bother to tell you his motives at all.)
BTW there are many assassin's who do contract work for the government. (Even in real life.) Most of them are only appointed on a need to know basis, and they usually do not do hits on irrelevant targets such as other assassins. Unless those other assassins are specifically targeting government officials related to the assassin's cause.
I forgot how he managed to revive after he suicided on the roof (young harman took him?)
He never killed himself literally. It's a metaphor. Much similar to how The Boss in MGS 3 doesn't actually have a snake tattoo that slithered off her body after she died.
It was a physical metaphor to symbolize the Boss's passing.
Garcian popping himself in the mouth was a symbolization of him killing his past.
His past as Emir. Although it I think it also serves to symbolize Emir killing his past as Garcian when we see it happen in game.
Watch Fight Club. There was a similar scene when the narrator killed Travis out from his mind after he popped himself in the mouth.
If Emir really did kill himself then it wouldn't make any sense for the Y. Harman to take him in when he found him at the Union hotel rooftop.
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My main beef with Killer 7 imo is how so many of k7's fans tend to ask the wrong questions.
It gives me the impression that most people don't seem to understand the intent of Killer 7.
A lot of people treat Killer 7 as if it's a straight forward epic tale of espionage, politics & conspiracy like Metal Gear Solid.
That's what K7 may appear to be on the surface, but it's really just a ruse.
Killer 7 is political satire told indirectly (Through Kun Lan) as a parable about the essence of free will, & how the majority of us don't use it.
If you notice almost every target who gets killed by Garcian actually thanks him, because he set them free from having to live a life full of pointless formalities.
Who kills Harman and Kun Lan and why did Garacian kill K7?
I get asked these set of questions all the time.
Most people are unsatisfied with what I tel them, because they tend to expect some kind of epic plot twist or what not.
What people don't seem to realize is that these questions are actually irrelevant, because they don't really effect anything in the overall outcome of the story.
That's not the point of Killer 7.
K7 is just not one of those type of plots. It's not about romance, character relations or plot development. K7 utilizes an artistic approach that tries to relay to the gamer a bunch of random themes & ideas ranging from political disputes, flow of information, government corruption, patsies, pawns, etc.
K7 merely uses the characters as tools to show you all the many ways that our, your & my government have conditioned us to believe in a reality that we did not forge for ourselves.
We merely borrowed what we think we know or believe in from the influence of our peers, & the media.
Killer 7 uses throw away characters, and every single one of them are expendable.
Why is it that we think Dan Smith got killed like a chump. He may have been badass, but he was also irrelevant, because the game doesn't focus on characters. Killer 7 focus's more on unraveling what's actually going on in Killer 7. Which is reality, & which is logical fallacy?
these are the type of questions that I feel more people should be asking.
Character based questions are a waste of time imo, because Killer 7 doesn't seem to care about developing the characters at all.
The characters were left vague for a reason. They do not matter.
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